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Old 04/11/09, 2:38 AM   #3301
Zure
Don Flamenco
 
Undead Mage
 
Nathrezim
Originally Posted by Sunfire View Post
Sadly that was my experience though I didnt say it earlier. If I was scorching as fireball on the PTR I was regularly outdpsed by a moonkin, DK, and ret pally that were at a similar gear level, even the arcane mage with us on Hodir and Ignis was beaten soundly by the Moonkin and DK on both fights ... I didnt want to make too big a deal of that aspect yet though since some people would argue the bosses I tested are somewhat melee slanted (though it didnt seem to affect the Locks place in the pecking order).
While I have not researched the issue in depth myself, I know that many moonkins are up in arms about the sub-par itemization they are looking forward to in Ulduar (spirit and hit heavy gear for a spec that does not make great use of spirit and only needs 9-10% hit; plus a lackluster 4 piece bonus). While this sucks as they will likely try to snap up cloth items more than ever, it very well might limit their dps effectively.

Can't comment on DKs and Rets.

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Old 04/11/09, 5:05 AM   #3302
kylaran
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
<BAD>
Demon Soul
Has there been any testing done on whether or not regular life taps should be dropped in execution range WITH bloodlust for a 40/31 spec?

And, while we're at it, whether or not corruption would still be worth it at execute range with the said spec?

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Old 04/11/09, 6:35 AM   #3303
koetjeka
Von Kaiser
 
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Gnome Mage
 
Tarren Mill (EU)
Originally Posted by Sunfire View Post
Deleted this post - sorry was straying into the whine territory - no use arguing about our relative 3.1 DPS here.
offtopic: sunfire from deathwing?

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Old 04/11/09, 7:25 AM   #3304
souldaze
 
Undead Warlock
 
Spinebreaker (EU)
i use the razer tarantular keyboard and razer lachesis mouse also i recomend a nice frosted glass steel series mouse mat

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Old 04/11/09, 11:19 AM   #3305
mistrssdixie
Glass Joe
 
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Human Warlock
 
Kirin Tor
the reason i have points in cataclysm is because i am gonna be switchin out the hit gems for haste gems. cause my haste is only a lil over 400 an i am aimin for over 500 at least..with out my spellstone. would love to get it close to 600 but with the lack of sockets..im gonna be losin alot of spell damage if i do so. so just switchin some hit out for haste. an when the patch comes out..i gotta put those points into supression.

i tweaked it some..but i do have a question. y put the points in imp void. if it only gives my fel guard 3% increase. i mean i had them in it..but i took them out..cause every1 kept tellin me i didnt need it cause i never ever use my void walker anymore. my felguard or imp is always out.


now with the new patch comin out. that is gonna be a big thing for me. i looked at the talent tree redo..an have played with it on ptr..an it seems that affliction is still gonna pone me..so can u make a suggestion on that as well if u dont mind.

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Old 04/11/09, 11:24 AM   #3306
Dragonlance13
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Moon Guard
I am looking for some advise on how to increase my DPS in Boomkin form. I am currently doing 3746 DPS on Patchwork. My rotation is IFF > IS > MF > Wrath until Eclipse > SF until Eclipse drops, then repeat.

My gear and spec are here:
The World of Warcraft Armory


Thanks in advance
Dragonlance

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Old 04/11/09, 11:54 AM   #3307
Hunt
Glass Joe
 
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Sylvanas (EU)
Originally Posted by Mippy View Post
Should I drop the 4-5k on a Surge Needle Ring (to replace Ring of Invincibility) before the patch? If I do that, Frosted Adroit drop for me (I should be next in line), and switch back to my Leggings of Failed Escape, I could drop my Grim Toll for something else (don't have anything else to use really atm and not close to F5F, but maybe a Bandit's will drop for me, or I could make a Death deck, which is getting buffed).
well,according with MaxDPS.com - World of Warcraft Gear Rankings - News ,Surge Needle Ring is the best one atm
droped for me on 3rd Malygos run,good thing that is BOE item and unlucky ppl can get it from AH..4-6k on my server,but is worth in my opinion
Also,with Frosted androit gloves and leggings of failed escape,assuming that you are hit caped,you can change grim toll with Nobles Deck ..ofcourse not cheap but worthly

Last edited by Hunt : 04/11/09 at 12:32 PM.

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Old 04/11/09, 12:03 PM   #3308
Latas
Don Flamenco
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Uther
Originally Posted by Dragonlance13 View Post
I am looking for some advise on how to increase my DPS in Boomkin form. I am currently doing 3746 DPS on Patchwork. My rotation is IFF > IS > MF > Wrath until Eclipse > SF until Eclipse drops, then repeat.

My gear and spec are here:
The World of Warcraft Armory


Thanks in advance
Dragonlance
First off Force of Nature and Starfall are both decent dps and well worth picking up for the one point. You shouldn't really need any points in dreamstate if you already have intensity and OoC. You should probably also pick up Nature's Splendor to lower the amount of refreshing you might have to do.

Gearwise the major glaring flaw i see is that you have the completely wrong meta, you should have the chaotic skyflare diamond in there. Also its minor but if you aren't having stamina troubles i would switch to the spellpower spirit leg patch.

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Old 04/11/09, 12:12 PM   #3309
Veldryn
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Mug'thol (EU)
How much DPS do you make on a Heroic Training Dummy (Boss)? I make about 2.4k to 2.6k with 4 of 5 tier 7.5. My Rotation is J > CS > DS > Cons without HoW. I take care....

3.02 Speed @ 308 Haste
4346 Attack Power (Selfbuffed with improved BoM)
163 Hit Rating
37.25 % Crit
12 Expertise

My DPS sucks, or? I need help.

~vel

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Old 04/11/09, 1:17 PM   #3310
saibot
Von Kaiser
 
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Human Paladin
 
Talnivarr (EU)
Originally Posted by Veldryn View Post
How much DPS do you make on a Heroic Training Dummy (Boss)? I make about 2.4k to 2.6k with 4 of 5 tier 7.5. My Rotation is J > CS > DS > Cons without HoW. I take care....

3.02 Speed @ 308 Haste
4346 Attack Power (Selfbuffed with improved BoM)
163 Hit Rating
37.25 % Crit
12 Expertise

My DPS sucks, or? I need help.

~vel
You need to step into a raid. Training Dummies are the worst way to measure your DPS since some of your core abilities do not work well on them and you are missing very vital raid buffs.

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Old 04/11/09, 1:29 PM   #3311
sepirion
Von Kaiser
 
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Draenei Paladin
 
Icecrown
Dummies are unfit to visualize raid dps, yes, but they are a useful measure when comparing data against the same class. Waiting a week for something like Patch in order to see if tweaks you've made have helped our hindered isn't the best situation, and I think Dummy DPS could be used as a baseline for those that need to "un-suck."

Edit: That said, last time I remember using the dummies I was around 2700dps self buffed. No idea how it compares to others, but there you are.

Last edited by sepirion : 04/11/09 at 1:35 PM.

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Old 04/11/09, 2:47 PM   #3312
Terror
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Bronzebeard
Rotation priorities & Blood spec + Haste

Hey guys I'm a first time poster so I'm sry if this is a bad post or posted in the wrong place. After scowering the forums for info I can't help but wonder if I'm doing something wrong or if I could be doing something better (DPS wise), and since EJ seems to be the most concise source I figured I'd ask you guys.

Right now I'm using Heart Strike as my primary attack and prioritize it above all others. The only time I do DC's are when Sudden Doom procs, and the only time I do Oblit's are right before my diseases are about to tick off so as to not waste them. Basically if Heart Strike is available, I'm hitting it unless my diseases need to be re-done. As you can see in my chart Oblit is not carrying as much weight as my top two and I'm wondering if it should be higher? Should I be using Oblit as my primary? Also, with haste affecting melee swing rates and it being my second contributor should I be investing in some haste?

Thanks in advance. Btw, the chart is from 25 Naxx and I got two new pieces of gear that aren't factored in.


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Old 04/11/09, 5:42 PM   #3313
Epicness
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Death Knight
 
Twisting Nether
Hey guys.
I know that most specs seem to be very close, but for the people testing out blood and unholy specs, what rotations do you use. If you could tell me a good blood and unholy rotation in 3.1, I would be very happy

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Old 04/11/09, 8:20 PM   #3314
Perforate
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Hunter
 
Suramar
Originally Posted by arlen View Post
OmniCC does what you're looking for.
Sir you are both a scholar and a gentlemen! Thanks

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Old 04/11/09, 8:22 PM   #3315
Gualdhar
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Warlock
 
Lightbringer
Talent build questions

nevermind

Last edited by Gualdhar : 04/12/09 at 5:37 PM.

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Old 04/11/09, 11:18 PM   #3316
AlexLastName
 
Troll Rogue
 
Alterac Mountains
help

Ok, I'm a mutilation spec rogue and I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. I'm pretty well geared and my DPS on patchwerk 25-man is only about 3.3k but the spreadsheet says it should be at like 4.7k or something.


I'm the standard spec and I use instant poison on my main hand and deadly on my off hand. I never let HFB or slice and dice fall off and my target is ruptured for almost the whole time. I assume I must be doing something wrong in between refreshing slice and dice, rupture, and HFB, but I have no idea what the issue is. I typically just envenom in between keeping the other stuff up and i make sure not to overlap the envenom buff. Any help would be appreciated.

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Old 04/12/09, 2:33 AM   #3317
Ascote
 
Gnome Warrior
 
Llane
Bad blues

Seems like locks still won´t be dealing mage like dps yet.

MMO-Champion BlueTracker - [BUG] Decimation

For those who dislike clicking, a blue says that decimation only procs when the spell hits, so chain casting will be SB/inci X2 then soulfire, instead of SB/inci then soulfire.

I can´t say I read the full thread before posting this, but the blue post is quite recent.

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Old 04/12/09, 2:50 AM   #3318
midnyt
 
Undead Rogue
 
Bloodscalp
Originally Posted by MalumUD View Post
RAID:
Any chance of you uploading a package of this with the same settings and whatnot?

I think it's absolutely beautiful and want it for my warlock!

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Old 04/12/09, 7:15 AM   #3319
Naforce
Piston Honda
 
Human Warlock
 
Frostmane (EU)
Originally Posted by Ascote View Post
Seems like locks still won´t be dealing mage like dps yet.

MMO-Champion BlueTracker - [BUG] Decimation

For those who dislike clicking, a blue says that decimation only procs when the spell hits, so chain casting will be SB/inci X2 then soulfire, instead of SB/inci then soulfire.

I can´t say I read the full thread before posting this, but the blue post is quite recent.
This has been accounted for a long time. That is why we stand at max range, so we can finish casting the SF before the incinerate hits, thus gaining the decimation buff right away again. The weave works perfectly on the PTR, atleast it does for me.

Edit: Besides, locks have been doing better DPS then mages for quite some time or have I missed out on something? Sure, mages can pop cooldowns and sometimes reach like 8k dps for a few seconds, but then they fall down and land at 6k. Locks can usually do a little better then 6k.

Last edited by Naforce : 04/12/09 at 9:56 AM.

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Old 04/12/09, 8:04 AM   #3320
willem11
Von Kaiser
 
Human Mage
 
Darksorrow (EU)
On the subject of engineering. Blizzard wrote:

Hand-Mounted Pyro Rocket
The plan is to take them off the GCD in 3.1 along with a damage increase and shorter cooldown (45s instead of 1 min)
This is quite interesting, if the damage increase of the rocket is significant.

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Old 04/12/09, 8:24 AM   #3321
zeraz0r
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Warlock
 
Nordrassil (EU)
Originally Posted by Ascote View Post
Seems like locks still won´t be dealing mage like dps yet.

MMO-Champion BlueTracker - [BUG] Decimation

For those who dislike clicking, a blue says that decimation only procs when the spell hits, so chain casting will be SB/inci X2 then soulfire, instead of SB/inci then soulfire.

I can´t say I read the full thread before posting this, but the blue post is quite recent.

1. If anything it's mages who won't be dealing warlock-like dps
2. Read the post on decimation, you can still get it right.

Last edited by zeraz0r : 04/12/09 at 8:32 AM.

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Old 04/12/09, 9:56 AM   #3322
SmellFunky
Banned
 
Dwarf Druid
 
Altar of Storms
Gold Making Video

I found this interesting vidon Youtube. This guys went from 0 to 1000 gold in four hours of played time by just playing the Auction House. Nice music too

YouTube - From 0 to 1,000 Gold

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Old 04/12/09, 10:30 AM   #3323
spence21
 
Human Death Knight
 
Silvermoon
how to maximize my dps

hey i am a DK looking for the best spec and the best way to spend my talent points. I am a really good geared DK, and i do okay dps for 25 man naxx. I do overall 2800 in frost spec with about 4K on thad and 2600 in blood spec with 4K plus on thadd. However, i think with the currrent gear i have i should be doing way more dps. I have talked to in game DKs who all say i should be doing more than them with the gear i have. Ive tried working on my spec and rotation. I could just use a little help to figure out what i am doing wrong.

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Old 04/12/09, 12:12 PM   #3324
DeadAz
 
Night Elf Death Knight
 
Aggramar (EU)
Hey peeps ,I'm a noob here so be easy on me.I have been reading loads of forums look at what Dk's have got coming in 3.1 .I myself have been DW dps for a while and love every minute of it.Seeing as the changes have killed off the set up I am presently useing. I`ve been having a good read at what peeps are finding in test on the PTR thinking about where i'll be going once its live.I read this about Blood and that about Frost and how wonderful Unholy is for DPS but think peeps seem to miss out one big change.Dual setups.Has anyone thought about having pure AOE setups and Pure solo target setups.Everything i'm reading seems to be stuck in TBC frame of mind,looking at getting the most out of 1 talent build.I thought this for AOE

Blood (26 points)
Butchery - Rank 2/2
Subversion - Rank 3/3
Bladed Armor - Rank 5/5
Two-Handed Weapon Specialization - Rank 2/2
Dark Conviction - Rank 5/5
Death Rune Mastery - Rank 3/3
Bloody Strikes - Rank 3/3
Veteran of the Third War - Rank 3/3


Frost (10 points)
Improved Icy Touch - Rank 3/3
Runic Power Mastery - Rank 2/2
Black Ice - Rank 5/5

Unholy (35 points)
Vicious Strikes - Rank 2/2
Virulence - Rank 3/3
Epidemic - Rank 2/2
Morbidity - Rank 1/3
Ravenous Dead - Rank 3/3
Outbreak - Rank 3/3
Necrosis - Rank 5/5
Corpse Explosion - Rank 1/1
Blood-Caked Blade - Rank 1/3
Unholy Blight - Rank 1/1
Impurity - Rank 5/5
Reaping - Rank 3/3
Desecration - Rank 5/5

Getting a DS,IT,PS,Pest then spam the hell out of BB as all runes are death runes followed by UB corpse exp then repeat. Can't really decide on solo DPS yet ,Or am I missing something being a noob ;]

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Old 04/12/09, 1:39 PM   #3325
fip
Von Kaiser
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Proudmoore
It appears that builds including Master Conjurer may not be reflecting the most recent changes:
"Increases the combat ratings gained from your Spellstone and Firestone by 150/300%" old was 15/30%.

spell_stone_t( player_t* player, const std::string& options_str ) :
warlock_spell_t( "spell_stone", player, SCHOOL_FIRE, TREE_DEMONOLOGY )
{
warlock_t* p = player -> cast_warlock();
trigger_gcd = 0;

bonus_haste = ( ( p -> level <= 60 ) ? 30 :
( p -> level <= 66 ) ? 40 :
( p -> level <= 72 ) ? 50 : 60 );

bonus_haste = (int16_t) ( bonus_haste * ( 1.0 + p -> talents.master_conjuror * 0.15 ) );
}

Looks like it's working off the old ratings.

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