If you had read your own qoutation, you would have found this:

ZiUI : WoWInterface Downloads : Minimalistic Compilations

So as a mitigation stat, it seems haste has the highest value.

Wouldn't the value of haste increase even more as a threat stat? More rage from white hits and more procs of fury swipes?

Why do some attacks have static damage modifiers? If the reason is explicitly to prevent double-dipping into AP, do performance and raid scaling over the last 18-24 months justify it?

i think they remove the fact it counts for like 20 spells or something so it is just like 1 spell now im not sure

Does anyone have a confirmation yet on keeping 4pc t10 or not yet? Just looking to see what to do until Cata. Please post insight, beyond what is above.

Are the people that are posting pro haste MMS things taking into account the length of the fight? I have not seen the time on these. Given the inputs and the way mastery is supposed to work suggests that stats will scale differently over a length of time. On shorter fights haste will smoke no question. If you run a sim for say 2-3 minutes it will distort the results in favor of haste...no? I've looked at some WoL of HLK sorts of guilds and the fights are not lasting longer than about 2 1/2 min or so.

I'd also like to see numbers for swipe and maul as well for comparison. Currently, I have maul macroed to mangle, lacerate etc.

Thank you.

I love how infractions are on these forums. I ask a pretty straight forward question and I get an infraction for it. First off IMO this is way overboard, it's about a GAME and a forum Q&A I do not believe my question was answered from the FAQs and I was not looking for anyone to hold my hand. See I had a curiousity about crit rating because itreally is not covered in EP values that are posted for rogues. I have copy and pasted a portion of the EP values and if you notice even ALDRINA (however you spell the name) says this is a "crude estimate". Now my post was days after the "CRUDE estimate" so I thought maybe someone found some differences while raiding or working on a target dummy. Below is a partial copy and paste of Rogue FAQs EP values.


What stats are good?
Agi is probably your best stat. Haste is probably pretty good as well. You will likely be short on hit. Current theory is that you want to get all socket bonuses, socketing agi, agi/haste, and agi/hit to match the socket bonuses. Crit is probably weak-ish for all specs right now, particularly for Assassination.

In terms of an incredibly crude estimate of the relative value of stats (and no, I don't have numbers for Sub, so don't ask):
Stat Assass. Combat
Agi 2.8 2.88
Crit 1.4 1.62
Spell Hit 3.1 2.38
White Hit 1.7 1.69
Expertise 2.6 2.20
Haste 2.2 2.25
Mastery 1.7 0.60

The only reason it's questionable right now is because we are casting slightly less Rejuvenations than we did before, and that it's currently bugged to provide the old Rejuvenation. I would recommend keeping it, personally, unless you have a lot of extra haste gear or something.

Exemplar thanks for this! I almost was gonna go Holy after the first day of this new spec release. After reading this information I think it's a fun spec now...gonna give it a chance till cata!

Rune Strike now triggers the GCD and cannot be macroed onto abilities in the same way you could pre-4.0.1.