Today MMO-Champ posted some catch up news, including the statement that only the lvl-277 arena weapons had a ratings requirement. I'd seen this mentioned in other threads as well.

This AM I checked the arena vendors in Dalaran and Area-52 (just to be safe), and either the information is wrong, or more likely, out off date. The 277 gear (not just weapons) have ratings requirements, 2400 I believe. The 264 gear, including weapons, have a lower, 1800, requirement as well. For both the rating is now either Arena OR rated BGs.

*edit* What I wrote above is true, in that the items are shown with their requirements, and show as red, but apparently you can still go ahead and buy them. Also apparently, you cannot return them if you make a mistake, so be careful out there. I'd test this myself, but already bought a bunch of gems, and need to build up points again

A. yes i use a very similar setup and am very happy with this.
B/C. our gear is not the same so this is irrelevant.
D.
All im saying is that you are working on the basis that everyone has unlimited rage. I always have HS, BT and RB on CD as i stated before, however I realise that if I didnt have the rage then BT and RB would take priority.
HS is 30 rage, BT and RB are 20. So in terms of rage cost: 2HS=3BT or RB.
2HS does not hit harder than any 3 combination of BT and RB (i.e. 3 BT).

2 parries would only be expected if you were infront which you would get anyway unless you have the hard exp cap.
There is testing in the cataclysm warrior changes sticky, and i also have not had any dodges with 22 exp 174 rating for me although apparently it might be 173 or 172.

In general I agree with your guide.

Blue posters said a few days ago that they intended that all of the sub-2000 arena rating-required wrathful items to be buyable for everyone. This basically includes everything except shoulders, T2 weapons, and the tabard, they just haven't taken the opportunity to update the tooltip.

Just wondering with the new stats on the reforged and regemmed gear downgrading the importance of haste. I presume that this is due to the bis gear pushing haste over 1400 rating cap and thereby gaining very little benefit from it.

Currently I have 1089 haste rating, should I be prioritising getting haste up to 1269 rating for the next immolate tick and then getting to the cap of 1401 before switching to other stats.

Also do the haste rating caps take into consideration the mind quickening haste raid buff that will be generally available to all raiders so that one would not necessarily require a personal rating of 1400 for a raid but have the haste rating augmented by the mind quickening buff?

I do not have the numbers with me because I'm at work, but with 26.93% Hit and Haste > Crit, I was able to generate enough rage without using any abilities what so ever to use RB, HS, BT and SLAM without ever being rage starved.

I use a one button macro for RB, HS and BT. The macro uses RB over BT in priority. It also uses RB before HS in the case that I would be rage starved and HS before BT in the same situation. I have slam on a different button. The only problem with the macro is that I can't see every independant ability CD, meaning I might use BT some times with 0.1 seconds left on RB CD.

Slam increases dps by about 300 when not rage starved.

For anyone who has yet to figure it out, execute is #1 priority as soon as you can use it.

RB hits 2 times everytime you use it (once with each weapon in hand).

HS hits harder then BT no matter what, because of the double Crit effect you get through talents.

Furthermore, when using abilities other then attacks, I chain Beserker Rage and Deathwish at all times insted of using them at the same time to have a higher RB uptime (you can only use RB when you are enraged). Alone chaining these two abilities raised my dps by about 150.

Both of these questions have been answered in previous posts. But the answer to the first question was that Selfless Healer DPS boost would not overcome the TV you would miss out on unless you are moving or as a clutch heal which the raid would need etc.

Had my ICC run earlier this week and it seems holy priests are able to push a ridiculous amount of healing at this point.
Tried out stacking mastery up to it's max and basically juggle with chakra on each boss.
There are a few things I walked against how ever in the holy tree.

- SOL is underwhelming it is just to random to be any good how ever the alternative spirit of redemption isn't much either.
I am aware that priests will be using heal more in Cata but I doubt it will justify the 6%.

- As far as I know there is no macro available that allows people to target/use with out losing their target.
That means lightwell suffers from the same problems as before.
It is hard to see and you basically ask others to know when it is smart to use the lightwell.
In some situations it might be good but in general the mechanic remains clunky.

- Holy priests spiritual healing is 15% at this moment , just questioning when ever the scaling will kick in.

- Test of faith gives me mixed feelings.
Bursting raids up is not the aim in Cata how ever test if faith shines on these fights.
The other thing is first you have to pick between underwhelming talents to get to the next tier while TOF forces you to chose between adding one point in holy or get talents out of disc/shadow.


- Currently I am running oom rather fast compared to other classes.
At this point we are still 80 and the game is hardly balance and it is acceptable but the question remains if this will change?


- Chakra/Revelations could use a bit of a rework at this point, mainly the activations are rather expensive.

1:Activating chakra should not cost mana

2: Activating chakra's single target ability should just trigger on gheal as well.
Refreshing or activating is tricky with heal since it is a weak heal.

3: Chakra should not be activated by POH but rather by COH.
Reason being is that the AOE heal does grand a nice buff but POH is extremely expensive.
If you expect a huge burst you basically pre cast it which is a bit silly.
If you do not pre cast you end up being behind if the burst damage is high and you basically don't heal up the first big hit.

4: Serenity and aspire feel a bit weak.


At this point holy priests seem quite fine but there are some things that require fixing.
They are borderline overpowered at this point but that does not take away that there are some clunky mechanics and poor designed talents.

Well, it's actually the best stat, but only if you are under the 8% cap. Over it, for DW, strenght becomes the best stat, after capping expertise too. Hit isn't a linear stat as strenght.

It's just like haste in 2h: after the soft cap, it's just less valuable than stenght or mastery due to stat scaling.

I agree with you, but with another, different reason. What attracted me to the mage class is that our gameplay was based more on pressing a few buttons at the right time, instead of having a ton of situational attacks. I'm not a tall guy with long fingers so I find that having too many spells in my rotation is quite awkward. Right now, 2-4 for me is fireball, pyroblast and living bomb. I have fireblast on 1 and scorch on 5 and I already find it awkward to press those two buttons while moving. It already feels like I'm stretching my fingers and having to contort them a bit.

Hi everyone. I'm playing as a demo-lock and have 1230 haste unbuffed, and I want to testify on that HoG-haste case.

Without the 5% buff everything is absolutely ok, you can even stuff a shadowbolt after HoG's cooldown reset. If you recast HoG immediately, the DoT will be renewed with about 4 seconds left.

With 5% buff things are less comfortable, but I was still performing pretty well in ICC25 last week and I can't say that renewing immo with hog was very frustrating experience.

I just tried it again with a random shaman on a training dummy. It was about 2 seconds left of immo left when HoG renewed it — enough to safely finish casting of the previous spell.

However this really feels dangerous — a second of hestitaion and i'll be forced to recast immo.

upd: I use ForteXorcist for DoT timers and there is a probability that it displays timers incorrectly. However, I've never encountered a situation when Immo shoud be refreshed according to fx timers, but didn't refresh in reality.
I am also sorry for my engrish, it's not my native language.

I don't know how much more clear I can be?

I tried taking Crit away for hit and Haste away for Crit . Taking Crit away and keeping Haste I found a dps increase.
I have around 41% Crit and almost 800 Haste. Think about haste here the more haste you have the quicker you swing your weapons the quicker you swing your weapons the more hits you're gonna get off hence more rage.


What kind of gear are you using? My guide is for people who have top end gear pretty much if not then if you're getting Rage Starved then do HS when you have 60+ Rage.

I really don't understand why you're using Rb and BT over HS? I mean unless from my previous post where I said If you don't have the greatest gear then you probably are going to have to wait for HS until you're 60 Rage +. But you should never have to really wait for Berserker Rage and Deathwish as a chain because RB is pretty much always up and if you have the gear for it you should be doing HS>BT>RB if not then I suppose BT>RB>BT>HS. I always use Berserker Rage and Bshout when they're up for more rage obviously and I use Recklessness and Death Wish at the same time when I have 4-6 Procs = Way more Damage.