Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1356

Valestik · 10/21/10, 8:06 PM

Well hopefully that 22 expertise value remains the same until cata and isn't unintended, would make gearing a little more simplistic and would definitely make getting more haste/crit easier. Always exciting.

If anyone can find something official that confirms they reduced the increased dodge per level to .2% instead of .5% can you please mention it?

Buuford · 10/21/10, 8:21 PM

went from top 3 dps in guild to 7th or 10th on most every fight.

BUT

I can sure tear up some aoe trash mobs! oh wait trash mobs don't mean shit.

anyone have any suggestions short of deleting the character?

I'm in all heroic icc25 gear with 2 heroic bvbs.

this is a suarfang fight

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

donhaggus
US - exodar

any item that had crit/haste I reforge crit to mast
any item that had hit/* i reforged hit to mast

stats are as follows this is raid buffed
haste 629 (19.18%)
hit 289 (9.4%)
crit 1099 (36.12%)
exp 24
mast 20.70

TrvlLikeMe · 10/21/10, 9:19 PM

With respect Rambaral that blue post is a month old. There are still major issues with MG for combat rogues.

This article is well written and points to a major problem with the logic behind this mastery talent. (Note the paragraph with the title "Main Gauche doesn't play well with others".)

Encrypted Text: Finding combat's missing damage - WoW Insider

EDIT: Sorry I'm calendar challenged. Rambaral posted a month ago, right as that blue post hit.

I've been looking for any blue posts relative to rogues, but can't find anything recent.

husec · 10/21/10, 11:56 PM

Just to be clear here and to get it cleared up if you can reach 1406 haste rating via reforging crit to haste (where possible) and gemming pure haste in yellow slots it is a big dps boost? Does 1406 haste rating include raid buffs like wrath of air totem? This is speaking from a Destro pov.

CraghackMCS · 10/22/10, 12:05 AM

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Solrael · 10/22/10, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by husec

Just to be clear here and to get it cleared up if you can reach 1406 haste rating via reforging crit to haste (where possible) and gemming pure haste in yellow slots it is a big dps boost? Does 1406 haste rating include raid buffs like wrath of air totem? This is speaking from a Destro pov.

1406 haste is from gear only, no buffs.

Morghie · 10/22/10, 1:08 AM

Actually the strange part about your calculations is that you somehow included only half of Booming Voice talent. You do include the "additional 10 rage" part and yet forgot to include the part where you have only a 30-second cooldown on shouts. As far as I can tell this might further diminish haste "soft-cap" (it being the minimum haste allowing to maintain a full rotation).

CraghackMCS · 10/22/10, 1:38 AM

Ahh cool, thanks for the info. I'll edit.

Pepitobenito · 10/22/10, 2:04 AM

Originally Posted by Azra187

Can anyone confirm whether or not the wind serpent's +8% magical damage applies to SrS, BA, and ES?

I can't fathom why it wouldn't. Magical damage is magical damage, no?

pyromanix · 10/22/10, 2:11 AM

ok so im new here and taking a peek at all this information about shadow priests is making my head spin. i was never good at class mechanics. But however i will still stick my head out and ask questions anyways.

What is the appropriate target critical strike rating for a level 80 shadow priest?

What is the appropriate target haste rating for a level 80 shadow priest?

Kalidrim · 10/22/10, 2:56 AM

Is there a definitive answer to the "DW VS 2H" topic?

I've been searching for some time, but I just can't seem to find the answer. My personal experience tend to show me that DW does higher DPS *I even have blue weapons, while my 2H spec has a ilvl 219 polearm*, but a lot of people say 2H does just as much DMG.

What must I do?

First my english is so poor...

So, TBH I play DW frost from patch 3.3.3... So now after lot of raid, etc etc, i can play this spec without any problem, rotation etc.

So DW or 2H , that's a gamestyle ofc but, U can see on my armory i got 264 weapons (saurfang hc want give me him BVB from 4 months..). And I'm before 2H frost Shadowmourne + 2H UH on all the fight in term of damage on boss (18K5 on rotface , SM was 18K.), the 2 DK with me are a great player and got all full 277 ilvl item. I can't imaginate my damage with full ilvl 277, probably 20-21k on rotface/saurfang , that's awesome.

And to answer correctly, TBH I think 2H frost is not really the best spec against DW frost/UH, srsly.

Killmachinee · 10/22/10, 3:20 AM

I was before the patch combat rogue, but in the first raid on ICC, in a struggle that always came 15k dps (deatbring suarfang), I've changed all my gems and enchants in accordance with the existing forum here, still observing a new spin I got 11.5 k while all my friends guild increased.
I need a solution so if anyone has an option there anything I can do to improve my dps, either by changing spec for assassination or sub, any help is welcome.

kazoozle · 10/22/10, 4:50 AM

side note, with icy talons/flurry, effective haste increases more rapidly the more haste you have

CraghackMCS · 10/22/10, 4:59 AM

Yeah this makes a lot more sense, thanks. I was mistaken as to how haste is calculated in (should have done research 1st rather than jump right in on the calc). This is great info to have. Now only if I can stack that much haste and still have enough crit to keep flurry even remotely close to 100% uptime. Its times like these that make me appreciate all the effort put in to make Landsoul's spreadsheet of post 4.0. But at least now while it isn't around, it gets me to stop being lazy and actually learn about the math mechanics behind my class. Its interesting stuff.

CraghackMCS · 10/22/10, 5:26 AM

Xodiv is correct comparing it to wowwiki's explanation of how haste buffs stack. 30.5 with 100% flurry/enrage uptime.