Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1358

Xanth · 10/22/10, 11:35 AM

What haste cap 4.0.1 Restor?

Yubble · 10/22/10, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by soullreaper

consideringering the big improvement in haste for dk's, shud i replace mark of supremacy with herkuml war token if im hit capped?
i olso use whispering fanged skull

If you're just barely hit capped, you should be using almost any other trinket other than mark of supremacy and reforging crit/expertise to hit. You should definitely be using Herkuml War Token instead of the supremacy trinket.

Charlie Marlow · 10/22/10, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by mastiferwoo

since you can only reforge an item once .

This statement is 100% incorrect, please disregard.

rokareot · 10/22/10, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Elimbras

Haste effect are multiplicative.
So if you add 14% haste effect, a 5% buff and 2% from Darkness, you get 1.14 * 1.05 * 1.02 = 1.22094 = 22,094% haste. You then need 1.5/1.22094 = 1.228 = 22.8% haste to be GCD capped.

Ok, now due to doing some math... I would like to know what the ideal rough haste number should be?

I think right now we have some room to work with as far as exacts go actually myself.

I am at 500 haste with 3 points in Darkness and raiding... I feel it's pretty decent right now. I am having a hard time deciding what is "perfect" right now.

I dare say, nothing is until we get into Cata. To me this time Blizz made the mistake of really revamping us while in the old state of the game. It's as if they put the cart before the horse with us in that respect.

Is the 709 haste number ideal? My theorycrafting math is not working that well atm.

Charlie Marlow · 10/22/10, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Dvaliyn

I would really like to know why almost every warrior prefers the 3/31/2 build instead of speccing 3/3 incite.
Is it just because of the higher cleave dmg with 3/3 in war academy? I am pretty sure that single target the 3/3 incite build is ahead.

Agreed. I've seen higher DPS with 2/3 War Academy and 3/3 Incite.

Rysidion · 10/22/10, 1:09 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Marlow

This statement is 100% incorrect, please disregard.

He's saying only one reforge can be active on any item at a time. You cant reforge both dodge and parry on the Rowan's rifle, for example.

Darhius · 10/22/10, 1:36 PM

Someone had tried the single-minded fury?
The Rotation its the same?

gorestagg1797 · 10/22/10, 1:48 PM

im fairly new to wow and ive only been playing for a few months.I'm still really new to all the wow language and abbreviations too so I'm not always sure what everyones talking about. my ret pally is lvl 80 but im not getting good dps at all. im not asking for you to tell me what im doing wrong, im just not sure how to do rotation exactly. ive copied down the suggested rotation but i dont think im doing it right cause my dps is very poor. any suggestions on how to improve my dps? my gs is just under 5k right now but shamefully im doing less than 1k dps. im sure im doing something very wrong but im not sure what. i think it might be my timing as far as the rotation goes. any help would be greatly appreciated. thank you

Nimiks · 10/22/10, 1:50 PM

With the 4.0.1 changes to agility (mail spec, 1agi=2p etc), i wonder if Darkmoon Card : Greatness wouldn't be better than Hermkul War Token or heroic Whispering Fanged Skull?

Requitas · 10/22/10, 1:50 PM

Nevermind. Found the Report Post button.

Charlie Marlow · 10/22/10, 2:15 PM

Originally Posted by Rysidion

He's saying only one reforge can be active on any item at a time. You cant reforge both dodge and parry on the Rowan's rifle, for example.

Ah, it was unclear.

Brigandy · 10/22/10, 2:44 PM

Originally Posted by dres

According to my test, Herkuml War Token - Item - World of Warcraft does not proc on Wild Quiver, Scatter Shot, which all deal ranged damage. I don't know if this is a bug or intentional.

Also, I did two 10mins shooting tests on 60lvl dummy, comparing Zod heroic and T1 Arena Longbow without any proc items, Chimera Shot was not used for more Arcane Shot samples.

Zod hc (rap 5946) Wrathful Longbow ilvl 264 (rap 5968)

Arcane Shot hit 3020 3112

Arcane Shot crit 6225 6392

Steady Shot crit 4675 4835

Auto Shot hit 2053 2092

Auto Shot crit 4171 4332

Wild Quiver hit 2068 2084

Wild Quiver crit 4193 4384

Aimed Shot crit 8193 8307

I was waiting for someone to test this theory, I know people QQ when pvp items are used in PvE but there are a few exceptions and I think this might be one of them, if I remember right the wrathful longbow is 3.00 speed correct? And it's been mentioned that the slower weapons are proving to output more dps regardless of stats to a degree

dotzndie · 10/22/10, 4:37 PM

So could anyone post a link or something and tell me where I can download the actual 4.0.1 Simcraft client, only one I see is the 3.3.5

Dwailin · 10/22/10, 5:45 PM

A poster commented earlier that the Wrathfull Gladiator's Slicer was a slight upgrade over regular Bloodvenom Blade. My dk is using two of the 251 Gunship Axes and as an offspec set on an alt most likely won't get a 264 weapon for some time. Can anyone confirm the pvp sword would be an up grade over the 251 Frost Giant's Cleaver? Thanks in advance and for the info posted to date...loving dw frost right now

morris241 · 10/22/10, 5:47 PM

ok , i read mechanics, faq's , and im still lost this patch came and blew my dps bye bye, lol. Ive regemed to get socket bonus like ive read and nothing im still kaking it , anyone else not getting any burst damage? or if someone can check me out in the armory that would be GREATLY appreciated , i havnt reforged anything yet , femer - eitrigg, combat rogue , thanks a billion.