Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1386

Zulrin · 11/11/10, 12:20 PM

I wondered whether there are some general rules for enhance when to use ghost wolf for running towards a boss or when to use es, ue and refreshing shields or redropping totems while moving.

And how this relates to more specific situations?
Does this changes if there is a trinket (especially a mastery) proc or if lavalash is on/off the cd?

I havn't seen any discussion so far on this topic, despite that there might be a significant difference in dps between these two methods.

Schmoopy · 11/11/10, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Crossroots

Would it be correct to assume that something similar to the old rogue compilation thread is going to be put together after cataclysm is released and proper theorycrafting has been established? I recently decided to get back to WoW and my rogue and also realized that whatever I knew about rogue playstyle is somewhat old at this point.

you mean like this? The 4.0.1 Rogue FAQ

Machinae · 11/11/10, 12:32 PM

Full geared rogue 359 gear combat is like 1k-1,5k above mutilate. Did some test with a friend, only debuffs was 8% spelldmg debuff from him and my 4% Physical DMG increase debuff.

Tested on the Raider Dummy

So don't know how this will change in Raids, cuz of buffs etc and the 35% phase for Mut rogue.

Note: We don't care about your anecdotes based on 5 minutes with a training dummy. They're completely meaningless. Stop posting them.

Please gtfo.

slid · 11/11/10, 12:41 PM

Does it makes sense to get like the hit hard cap 27% so you'd never miss a chance on KM procs and do more DPS?

Jonall · 11/11/10, 1:34 PM

Excuse my noobish question, but being completly confused about our rotation...why is RIME even listed, it is a proc not a cool down am i supose to "wait on it" or just hope it procs at the apropriate time?

DaveC118 · 11/11/10, 1:59 PM

Hi,

For those of us that do not have an heroic ICC25 277 weapon what is the best non heroic 2H for Unholy DK's now?

Is it still Bryntroll the Bone Arbiter or is it Shadows Edge?

Cuhjo · 11/11/10, 2:13 PM

Thank you very much. I'm looking forward to the results of your testing.

Emerwyn · 11/11/10, 2:53 PM

Perfectly explained and makes perfect sense, thanks a lot.

Morbidar · 11/11/10, 5:04 PM

I HAVE TRIED TO FIND THE MOST APPROPRIATE PLACE TO COMMUNICAT WITH BUT THIS IS THE BEST I HAVE FOUND.

I DID AN OPTIMIZE WITH ADDITIONAL SWITCHES THROWN. THE NUMBER FOR HAVING "TALENT" AND "TALENT SPECS" BOTH ON IS TWICE THE VALUE OF AN UNENHANCED RUN (NO ADDITIONAL OPTIONS USED).

i CANNOT find any where how to find the talent info optimization choices made by RAWR. Can you please help me to understand how to take advantage of talent suggestions as easily as gem and enchant suggestions?

Thanks.

gundecker · 11/11/10, 7:54 PM

I tried making a power aura for Enrage, but to no avail. What is the buff called exactly???

Vistana · 11/11/10, 8:03 PM

The buff is called Enrage. Although I'm not a Power Aura user myself, I think there is more than one Spell ID for Enrage, for different classes/talents etc, so maybe you have to factor that in, though I could be wrong.

EDIT: typo'd.

gundecker · 11/11/10, 9:56 PM

Yeah...I remember someone tellling me that it's Enrage III or Enrage iii or Enrageiii or EnrageIII...none of them work with powerauras : (

Tizack · 11/12/10, 1:46 AM

for Power auras I just put "Enrage" in the buff section and it works perfectly.

Danyosh · 11/12/10, 4:57 AM

Originally Posted by Bahlshaab

For an accurate number you would need the SP scale factors for each caster in your raid. In lieu of that, a very rough estimate could be done using some warlock scale factors (these are Level 80 with BiS gear from the SimC OP).

Destro would have either 10% buff or 6% buff, the difference being 4% so:
(0.04)*(3.1634) = 0.1265 dps/SP gained or lost

Demo would have either 10% buff or would switch to Destro with 6% buff so:
Demo (1.1)*(2.5606) = 2.8167 dps/SP
Destro (1.06)*(3.1634) = 3.3532 dps/SP

So if you run as Demo you lose 0.5365 dps/SP while each Destro lock in the party gains 0.1265 dps/SP.

Then:
(0.5365 / 0.1265) = 4.2 ====> 5

So it would take 5 Destro locks *in addition* to the Demo lock to come out ahead in raid DPS.

Thank you very much, this was very helpful.

Aarn · 11/12/10, 5:33 AM

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