Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1387

Danath · 11/12/10, 5:37 AM

Originally Posted by Anaria

Well I tried to post it on the beta forums but it's giving me the old no beta account attached nonsense (Another European player here) which is strange since I posted on the forums fine a couple of months ago. I'll just dump it all here so that some one else can copy pasta it to the forums if they have access.

As I mentioned I used averaged damages taken using recount against a training dummy with no buffs except Seal of Righteousness and Retribution aura. I used only non-crit data so crit anomolies were less likely; this means that the extra 15% crit that crusader strike gets is not represented here, and thus the actual result is even more in crusader strike's favour. The maths is modelled on 3 CS/DS and the resulting TV (or 0.4 of a TV in the case of DS) to fairly represent holy power gain.

Ability Damages:
Templar's Verdict - 15212
Crusader Strike - 6360
Divine Storm - 2760
Seal of Righteousness - 995 x 3 = 2985
Seals of Command (Which strikes every target hit by the seal, not just the primary) - 518 x 3 = 1554

3 Crusader Strikes + 4 Seal of Righteousness + 4 Seals of Command + 1 Templar's Verdict:
(3 x 6360) + (4 x 2985) + (4 x 1554) + 15212 = 19080 + 11940 + 6216 + 15212 = 52448

So our goal damage for Divine Storm to reach is 52448.

Take away the damage dealt by 0.4 TVs:
52448 - (0.4 x 15212) = 46363.4
Take away the damage dealt by seals from the 0.4 TVs:
46363.4 - (0.4 x 2985) - (0.4 x 1554) = 44547.8

This gives us the damage that needs to be dealt by 3 divine storms in order to break even: 44547.8

Damage that needs to be dealt by each individual DS:
44547.8 / 3 = 14849.267
Dividing by the damage dealt to each target of DS gives us the number of enemies required to meet our target:
14849.267 / 2760 = 5.38 (to 3DP)

EDIT: Almost forgot to mention this data was gathered at level 85 in ilvl 359 epic gear with Ashkandi as the weapon. All the gear is just the character copy template stuff, gemmed and enchanted.

Bugged forums...Mhm! Maybe you can give it a shot on the live forums, anyway? Worth a try. Thanks for the data!

Ripebear1 · 11/12/10, 8:00 AM

Has there been any confirmation of a Haste soft cap where Crit becomes more valuable? I've heard of this but never seen any proof.

ZooF · 11/12/10, 1:28 PM

Hi guys.
I have this issue that I'm eager to solve

I had graphic card GT7800 and wow worked fine and smooth on middle-low, now I have bought ASUS ENGTX 460 TOP
after I installed that card I couldn't play wow anymore I have fps drop rate to 1 if I move or turn my camera if I stand still I can have to 60 fps or more and it doesn't matter if all on low or high-ultra
then after some asking and searching I got this advice to add SET gxApi "d3d11" to config.wtf and bang everything fixed I was happy on high-ultra with smooth fps then after a while freezes got back I reinstalled the game first run without any changes in options 1 fps again ok I add SET gxApi "d3d11" everything is nice, and now again I just can play it is slide show!

I want to add that the games like Far Cry 2, GTA IV, Dragon Age, Fallout: NV work perfect with high-ultra, nothing freezes stable fps

can anyone help plz!

peteyd · 11/12/10, 2:45 PM

question on single-minded vs titan's grip... if you were to go single-minded and test stuff out, would you go with a faster or slower offhand. i'm assuming faster?

Hakan · 11/12/10, 4:15 PM

So I went over the shadowcraft guide, and I have a question: Is it completely accurate? It's telling me I should be reforging a lot of my stats to haste, but that drops me below the hit / expertise cap. So, is this still being worked out or what?

EDIT: So I neglected to read the post(s) before posting here, and I realize the creator is in a bit of a pickle, no worries. Just wondering as to why the system favors haste over hit / expertise is all.

Hakan · 11/12/10, 4:25 PM

So currently I have a pretty well-geared Assassination rogue. He's doing roughly 16k DPS in 10 man encounters, and I'm loving it! Currently though I went over a not-complete spreadsheet which tells you what to reforge, gem, etc. And I'm a little confused on some things.... I know the white hit is 707 for hit and 342 for spell, and that the expertise if at least at 200 allows no dodge / parry against most targets except around 7% chance to parry on bosses.

My question is.... I have my hit currently at 711 and my expertise at 201. Is this too high? I personally do not think so... but that guide I used said the hit cap could be much lower.

Lyu · 11/12/10, 6:00 PM

I recently came back from a break since i was father for the 1º time

, and dam is the class changed my damage vs casters is very low , iam gessing this is just now before cataclysm or is the class also very weak at 85 ?

Main question is : are we competitive DPS at 85 atm ?

Zamorakian · 11/12/10, 6:10 PM

Ok, this will be my first post on EJ forums.
I have bin playing my Death Knight since wotlk came live so i aint new to it.
I went frost like many other DK's after the 4.0.1. Now... I have bin experimenting. I got these stats:
2900 +- Strenght.
1100+- Haste.
351 Mastery.
27% +- Crit.
8% Hit.

I am wielding Shadowmourne. So a two-hander.
I checked the prioirty stats is HASTE for 2h. I was thinking is there a cap? I got 1100 now... and i cant waste my runic power with frost strikes fast enough. So there must be a cap? Why would you be over capped with haste if you cant dump runic power fast enough. I am now slowly lowering my haste and currently if i do a perfect rotation on a dummy so without aditional runic power i would get during raids from AMS or druid talent giving me something extra runic power. I would say 800 haste is the cap for 2h?

Could anybody add some info about that, or if it is correct?

Baadd · 11/12/10, 6:28 PM

Originally Posted by donmc

It's worth noting that the recent beta build changed the activation requirement on Chaotic Shadowspirit Diamond from more blue than yellow to more blue than red.

Anyone figured out what is optimal here? Messed around with a few quick setups on a level 85 premade and it seems like the 3% crit meta wins out. We lose a lot of strength but gain a ton of hit...which can be reforged into whatever we need. I've got some numbers but my math is quick and sloppy. I was wondering if anyone else has put more thought into it.

Zynth · 11/13/10, 2:33 AM

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found my answer

Cptplnit · 11/13/10, 5:43 AM

From reading the Elemental Precision tool tip it should at least apply to all of our shocks, lightning bolt, etc, etc. From the looks of it you only did two tests, so you can't completely rule out RNG.

Burka · 11/13/10, 7:55 AM

No sure regarding this, need more testing.
It's seems Totemic Reach do not improove the range of Earthbind totem atm.

lielin · 11/13/10, 8:23 AM

Im new fire mage.I was Arcane.I'm searching for a rotation to start try fire mage.Can anyone help me please? Thank you very much

Dotasgeo · 11/13/10, 9:27 AM

hello guys

i always use macros, but after i quited the game and i started again i cant use almost anything.....
after many days of practice the only macro i have created is
/use blood fury
/use Maghia's Misguided Quill
/cast soulburn
/cast soul fire

and for pve and for pvp.
but i have problem with corruption, elements and bane......
can u help me find something cause its really annoying as i try to click every button as a destro....
thank you for your time have fun

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JonnyG · 11/13/10, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Dotasgeo

hello guys

i always use macros, but after i quited the game and i started again i cant use almost anything.....
after many days of practice the only macro i have created is
/use blood fury
/use Maghia's Misguided Quill
/cast soulburn
/cast soul fire

and for pve and for pvp.
but i have problem with corruption, elements and bane......
can u help me find something cause its really annoying as i try to click every button as a destro....
thank you for your time have fun

)

Here is an example of one of my macro's for demo.

#showtooltip Corruption
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/cast [button:2] Legion Strike
/cast [button:1,@pettarget] Legion Strike
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
/cast Corruption

Depending on whether I right or left clicked tells the pet to attack it's target or my target. Then casts Corruption.