Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 139

Einskaldir · 01/23/09, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Munu

doesnt castrandom mean it casts a random spell from the following list? thus even if the 20% hp requirements are met, it might still fire arcane over kill shot, which would lead to a dps loss ?

Yes, probably. I will do some shooting and keep my eyes open.

I changed my macro a bit anyway, gonna try and see how that works out:

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/script UIErrorsFrame:UnregisterEvent("UI_ERROR_MESSAGE")
/cast Kill Shot
/castrandom Arcane Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:RegisterEvent("UI_ERROR_MESSAGE")
/cast [modifier:alt] Serpent Sting
/cast Steady Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1

Kill Shot has a seperate cast now, and Arcane Shot has a seperate /castrandom. Maybe that'll work.

Sindroth · 01/23/09, 12:02 PM

I'm still fine tuning this, and I'm not entirely sure if a /castsequence or /castrandom would work better. What does work really well is that this macro refreshes Serpent Sting right as it wears off without clipping.

Macro 1 - Adjust the number of "!Auto Shot" to match the duration of your Serpent Sting.

/castsequence reset=17 Serpent Sting, !Auto Shot, !Auto Shot, !Auto Shot, !Auto Shot, !Auto Shot, !Auto Shot, !Auto Shot, !Auto Shot, !Auto Shot, !Auto Shot

Macro 2 - "ActionButton3" is where I put Macro 1

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/click ActionButton3
/cast !Auto Shot
/castsequence Kill Shot, Aimed Shot, Arcane Shot, Steady Shot
/cast [target=pettarget,exist] Kill Command
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

werdna · 01/23/09, 12:04 PM

Instead of trap dancing for your own entertainment... why not TAP dance for everyone else?

Imagine: you could hack in your own theme music, get your Gorilladin and vanity pet to be your back-up dancers (a la Gladys Knight & the Pips), and put an Elvis "Thank you, thank you very much" emote at the end.

I'd /clap and /cheer for that !

Sithy42 · 01/23/09, 1:13 PM

Make a macro:

/cancelaura "Power Word: Shield"

Dacrushertoo · 01/23/09, 2:06 PM

I'm a very well geared hunter, but I'm lacking the BiS pieces with hit... [Surge Needle Ring], [Chestguard of Flagrant Prowess], [Torn Web Wrapping], etc...

Here's my current set up:

Night Elf: Inscription/LW - always have +1% hit buff
6/14/51 Build
Melee - [Journey's End][Item not found!]
Head - [Blue Aspect Helm][Relentless Earthsiege Diamond][Rigid Autumn's Glow][Arcanum of Torment]
Neck - [Favor of the Dragon Queen][Rigid Autumn's Glow]
Shoulders - [Valorous Cryptstalker Spaulders][Delicate Scarlet Ruby]Master's Inscription of the Axe
Back - [Aged Winter Cloak][Scroll of Enchant Cloak - Major Agility]
Chest - [Tunic of Masked Suffering][Scroll of Enchant Chest - Super Stats]
Wrists - [Arachnoid Gold Band]Fur Lining - Attack Power
Hands - [Gloves of Calculated Risk][Scroll of Enchant Gloves - Precision]
Waist - [Depraved Linked Belt][Eternal Belt Buckle][Rigid Autumn's Glow]
Legs - [Valorous Cryptstalker Legguards][Delicate Scarlet Ruby][Balanced Twilight Opal][Icescale Leg Armor]
Feet - [Boots of the Renewed Flight][Scroll of Enchant Boots - Icewalker]
Rings - [Ring of Invincibility][Strong-Handed Ring]
Trinkets - [Grim Toll]Darkmoon Card: Greatness
Ranged - [Envoy of Mortality][Heartseeker Scope]
Other - [Dragonscale Ammo Pouch][Mammoth Cutters]

I have other hit-gear options including:
[Black Ice]
[Pack-Ice Striders]
[Vereesa's Silver Chain Belt]
and many other not-so-great gear options...

As Armor Pen doesn't effect ExS, I just hate having [Grim Toll] equipped. I'd much rather equip [Mirror of Truth] and be ready for [Fury of the Five Flights] when I have enough dkp to outbid everyone else on it when it drops. [Black Ice] is an obvious choice, but I hate giving up a BiS item plus if the feral druid who I outbid on the one time Kel dropped it for us saw me with it, he'd probablly /gkick me.

I don't really trust spreadsheets 100%, they are a great guide, but I think it's a mistake to use Shandaras as a bible. Any thoughts on my current set up versus a 4/16/51 build with 2 in Focused Aim, a little re-gemming and equipping [Mirror of Truth]? At least until I get some better luck with BiS hit gear... I'm not too concerned with the pet dps loss of Focused Aim, as it's really quit marginal.

zarakan · 01/23/09, 2:17 PM

Hi im new here and I have a couple of questions regarding the survival tree.

Ive read a few pages of this thread but im wondering abit about shot rotation, and I realize its more shooting priority. Like exploding first, then aimed, sting and steady. I just respecced and ive never tried survival before, so this shoting rotation is abit hard to follow. Do you have any tips in this area?

Also what is trapdancing? Is it running back and forth to the boss laying down a trap? Maybe im just not a great player, but with the more advanced shooting rotation and laying down traps, well its seems HARD!

Frelian · 01/23/09, 2:24 PM

Originally Posted by zarakan

Hi im new here and I have a couple of questions regarding the survival tree.

Ive read a few pages of this thread but im wondering abit about shot rotation, and I realize its more shooting priority. Like exploding first, then aimed, sting and steady. I just respecced and ive never tried survival before, so this shoting rotation is abit hard to follow. Do you have any tips in this area?

Also what is trapdancing? Is it running back and forth to the boss laying down a trap? Maybe im just not a great player, but with the more advanced shooting rotation and laying down traps, well its seems HARD!

(SIGHS) Read the thread completely before posting...

LockApologist · 01/23/09, 2:27 PM

Originally Posted by zarakan

Hi im new here and I have a couple of questions regarding the survival tree.

Ive read a few pages of this thread but im wondering abit about shot rotation, and I realize its more shooting priority. Like exploding first, then aimed, sting and steady. I just respecced and ive never tried survival before, so this shoting rotation is abit hard to follow. Do you have any tips in this area?

Also what is trapdancing? Is it running back and forth to the boss laying down a trap? Maybe im just not a great player, but with the more advanced shooting rotation and laying down traps, well its seems HARD!

Yes. Read the rest of the thread, not just a few pages. Or, try the search function.

zarakan · 01/23/09, 2:54 PM

Originally Posted by LockApologist

Yes. Read the rest of the thread, not just a few pages. Or, try the search function.

Okey, so you expect everyone who has an answer to read all 36pages? Thats abit harsh imo. It would probably be faster to write the answers than the reply you just gave me.

alarge · 01/23/09, 2:58 PM

Originally Posted by zarakan

Hi im new here and I have a couple of questions regarding the survival tree.

Ive read a few pages of this thread but im wondering abit about shot rotation, and I realize its more shooting priority. Like exploding first, then aimed, sting and steady. I just respecced and ive never tried survival before, so this shoting rotation is abit hard to follow. Do you have any tips in this area?

Also what is trapdancing? Is it running back and forth to the boss laying down a trap? Maybe im just not a great player, but with the more advanced shooting rotation and laying down traps, well its seems HARD!

As others have said, this is pretty much all available earlier in the thread. Having said that, I'll give you my experience.

All through BC I played BM and got very used to spamming a macro button as my main attack. After the recent patch, I switched to survival and tried to come up with a shot macro that I could spam and give me reasonable performance. I couldn't.

The strategy I have arrived at is to have ES, SrS, and AS/SS (shift for aimed) on my bar, and just use a priority system for which to hit (others have posted the proper priority). The biggest issue I ran into was having to switch my eyes constantly between my bar and the boss. I fixed that issue by using one of the cooldown/dot tracking addons suggested by others. I personally have decided on Power Auras, but it sounds like TellMeWhen might also fit the bill (as well as one or two others). Edit: I should mention that I also macro KS into my ES, since that button has my highest priority.

Since you get a guaranteed LnL proc from mobs hitting your traps, some people have adopted a strategy of fighting relatively near bosses and stepping forward every 30 secs or so to set a trap. For situations where it works, it appears to be a clear dps win. It also has obvious drawbacks. There is a sort of middle-ground, however. In many boss fights, there are adds that spawn. For those fights, it makes perfect sense to place a trap (particularly a frost trap) where the adds will run over it -- you help control the adds, you get the dps bump, and you get very little of the downside of fighting right next to the boss. This is pretty much the approach I'm taking right now. Maybe when I get the new shot style wired into my DNA, I'll try out true trap dancing myself.

Nagisamuro · 01/23/09, 3:00 PM

Originally Posted by zarakan

Okey, so you expect everyone who has an answer to read all 36pages? Thats abit harsh imo. It would probably be faster to write the answers than the reply you just gave me.

The thread wouldn't be 36 pages long if people read it before asking the same questions over and over.

Faerdael · 01/23/09, 3:10 PM

Originally Posted by zarakan

Okey, so you expect everyone who has an answer to read all 36pages? Thats abit harsh imo. It would probably be faster to write the answers than the reply you just gave me.

Ok, I'll bite here. Classes were broken into sub forums on EJ so that we didnt end up with mega threads for everything. This thread alone is over a thousand posts long, so its been hit and miss (the rogues are doing better than we are). Perhaps shot "rotations" should be its own thread (its still early in the 3.0.8 hunter revision, so its probably premature for that).

I put rotation in quotes because I think a lot of us aren't looking at it as a rotation per se (ie. TBC surv was Steady > multi > auto > steady > auto > steady > arcane > auto repeat), but more as a priority system. In otherwords, you have certain shots of varying damage and CD's, so its a matter of deciding what is more important. You would base this on the amount of DPS the instants (or dot) provide, with steady as a last resort (you could think of steady as the new mind flay of hunters, I suppose).

This would appear to be Explosive Shot > Kill Shot > Serpent Sting > Aimed (multi, if not specced aimed) > Steady, and use the highest priority when its available (or needs to be refreshed); at least thats the basic running concept.

Omegaman · 01/23/09, 3:51 PM

Originally Posted by bbartlog

As for choice of words: I think your advice is bad. I expanded on why. I'm not sure why you think the choice of words is poor when it does, in fact, express my opinion very accurately.

Please reserve for the WoW Healing forums.

kelben · 01/23/09, 5:04 PM

For whatever reason, I am currently recieving a lot less personal arena rating points then the rest of my team, they were almost at 1850, and i was still at 1810 rating roughly and we started off at 1800. No d/c or anything similiar. Has anyone else experienced this?

dariusfrost · 01/23/09, 6:22 PM

Hi, I was hoping to get some advice. My guild is not currently in 25 man raids yet but we have full cleared OS, Naxx and Stone Keeper 10 mans. Here is my armory link

The World of Warcraft Armory

Im looking for what people think might be my next biggest upgrades gear wise. Im currently hoping for Death's Bite to drop from naxx but am not overly sure beyond that. I have been using Bellator's spreadsheet as a guide but wanted some person to person advice. I also have a nobles deck put together just waiting on the fair to be back in town.