Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1390

morphan · 11/16/10, 11:03 PM

Hey.
Ive been playing the beta for a while and so far ive gotten to this conclusion:

Gems and reforging
1 - hit to soft kapp (8%)
2 - exp to 26
3 - Str
4 - hit to 27%
5 - crit
6 - haste
7 - mastery

Fury Rotation (prio):

CS - HS - RB - HS - BT

Have to add im not even 100% sure this is the right prio order on either rotation or gems/ reforging.
It´s just the feeling ive gotten after playing on the beta a while.
So would be gratefull for any tips.

Cheers Morphan

paganblade · 11/16/10, 11:50 PM

Hello All...

I'm trying to figure out my dps problem, but alot of the stuff i've read here goes totally over my head.
In ICC i struggle to stay in the 7K dps range. I've regemmed, adjust stats, etc. etc, but i'm certainly doing
something wrong.

Can someone tell me if the stats below are good where they're at? I'm thinking i need to drop crit and throw
it into haste, but i'm not sure. My wow armory profil is here:
The World of Warcraft Armory - Paganblade @ Bloodhoof - Profile

Spec: Combat 5/31/0
Haste Rating: 679 (20.71%)
Hit Rating: 300 (15.75%)
Crit Chance: 46.94%
Expertise Rating 228 (29)
Mastery Rating: 120

Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

Antimaxis · 11/17/10, 12:04 AM

Your spec seems to be abit off and you should try out 2/31/3 if you insist on playing combat.
For gems you should be using delicate cardinals, deft ametrines, and glinting dreadstones in red, yellow and blue soclets respectively... you should then reforge crit to exp haste and then to white hit with whats left.

Also, im not sure why you reforged mastery as combat but atm on live its probably the weakest stat for a combat rogue so you should stay away from it at all costs..
Besides that, cant really tell what else is wrong from your armory but hopefully thats a step in the right direction.

Edit: also noticed your running about way to much as the current Exp cap on live is ~22 (i believe 172 exp without specilizations)

kemmo · 11/17/10, 1:23 AM

It sounds somehow "more beneficial" for raiding that the worgen racial envolves crit chance, even 1%, its a stat that is pure dps, instead of shadowmeld thats almost un-important for raiding environment, plus the double resistance racial passive ability.
It becomes handy when you aggro at ICC adds and they loose target (most of the times) if you shadowmeld...
Will it be free cost race change when cataclysm launches?

Deathntaxes · 11/17/10, 3:19 AM

Blood Fury now increases attack power by 1170 at level 85. Up from 342.

So Blood fury has finally had its scaling fixed. Increases the value of Orc for unholy DK's even more. Still glad to be Orc for sure.

rsvictor1976 · 11/17/10, 6:42 AM

Forgive me if this answer has been posted already.

I'm a human dual wield Frost DK, I noticed in the Frost guide in this forum the weapons of choice were identical and offhand was slow and large top end damage. Should I be aiming for a slow offhand or a fast offhand?

I was thinking of using the wrathful gladiator weapons from the Veteran Arena Vendor and considering either

Wrathful Gladiator's Pummeler / Wrathful Gladiator's Bonecracker
Wrathful Gladiator's Slicer / Wrathful Gladiator's Quickblade

(Also, do you recommend the high top end dmg from the Pummeler or the the high low end dmg from the Slicer?)

or Wrathful Gladiator's Cleaver / Wrathful Gladiator's Chopper

wonkey · 11/17/10, 8:12 AM

Patch 4.0.3a up on PTR as a release version. Seems our self healing is too good.

Death Strike now heals you for 25% (down from 30%) of the damage sustained during the preceding 5 sec, minimum of at least 7% (down from 10%) of your maximum health.
Rune Tap now heals you for 10% of your maximum health, down from 15%.

Otori · 11/17/10, 9:00 AM

Does anyone have logs of raids in the beta? I've been looking for them everywhere, but to no avail. The warriors of the top guilds which have logs on World of Logs are all raiding as Fury (which is weird, since other classes have different specs raiding, such as Combat/Assasination and Arcane/Fire). Is Arms dps still so much behind?

I realize a lot of the fights are gimmicky and might be too early to make assumptions, but I'd just like to have an estimative on how Arms is doing currently.

Dryn · 11/17/10, 9:09 AM

Edit: I was wrong, so I'm removing the post. Embarassing mistake involving an old macro that put Cryptmaker into my offhand instead of Glorenzelg, causing a dramatic drop in expertise. So sorry.

kracker98 · 11/17/10, 9:31 AM

Originally Posted by Beckwin

It also seems with the Hand of Light glitch you are unable to use Zealotry even when you have 1/2 Holy Power + HoL, you NEED 3 Holy Power to use Zealotry. At least this is occurring for me.

I've noticed this as well

vivante · 11/17/10, 9:51 AM

Originally Posted by Dryn

Just logged into 4.0.3 (13287), the pre-Cata patch, and it seems like our Expertise cap is back up to 26. With 23 expertise I was seeing quite a lot of dodges on a target dummy, then re-forged back up to 26 and got no dodges on a 6mil test.

Safe to assume that the change to expertise was a bug that has now been corrected.

It wasn't a bug, it was a change to the points per rating and confirmed by a blue post. Unfortunately I can't link it since last time I did it I got banned. Can you post logs of your dodges with 23 expertise? I haven't seen any dodges yet.

AyliaTNE · 11/17/10, 10:09 AM

I have been unable to confirm any dodges with 23/26 (mainhand/offhand) expertise on a 10 million damage test on the heroic training dummy.

Walktheline · 11/17/10, 10:29 AM

Furthermore, there are also those shamans, that 2h caster weapons instead of a 1h + a shield. Or the sort of shamans, that go to lowlvl bgs and try to onehit some lowies with 2h + WF ;-)

ceelion22 · 11/17/10, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Diakonran

Damn me and my lvl80 mindset. Forgot about AotF. And CobraS. So ISS will be a dps loss then, as SS will be dropped from rotation.

...unless I am misunderstanding CobraS's 2ndary ability of increasing SerpS duration...Do those stack or is it more akin to ChiShot's refreshing?

It adds 6 seconds to the duration on SS on the target

IE:

SS has 3secs left
Cast CobraS
SS now has 9secs left.

Using SS instead of CobraS for BM and SV is gonna lead to a loss because you manualy have to reapply SS (costing you 35 focus in the process) as well as CobraS benefiting from SV mastery (iirc)

Zorat · 11/17/10, 1:23 PM

The latest "Release" beta build includes a 20% buff to Priest direct heals.

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