Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 140

Mortul · 04/15/09, 2:57 PM

you would think that Exorcism would be first with it's 30 yard range.

Raelf · 04/15/09, 3:29 PM

I realize now is a pretty chaotic time to ask a general question, but I've poured through these pages and found no clear answer:

What are the generally accepted Mutilate, Combat Swords, and HAT max DPS raid builds in 3.1?
What are the generally accepted 3.1 glyphs for each of these?

I see a synergy in glyphs, weapons, gems and enchants running dual spec Mut / HAT as a primarily raiding Rogue. What adavantage/disadvantage would there be to running Mut/HAT vs running Combat Swords/HAT?

I love the theory crafting here. At times when I have the time to read, digest, and incorporate, the information is wonderful. Currently, 3.1 hit during a major crush time in my business. I just need the high level answers in one place. Thanks in advance for any straightforward answers.

Palladia · 04/15/09, 3:52 PM

Please delete this message

Ends · 04/15/09, 4:27 PM

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Thane · 04/15/09, 5:46 PM

oh, sorry. I meant the best moonkin dps build.

Thanks,
Thane

Rivkah · 04/15/09, 5:54 PM

How about 0/41/30? Last I looked it wasn't that far behind 0/40/31 and it doesn't have conflag. Can it still stand up to affliction?

Drison · 04/15/09, 6:07 PM

Originally Posted by Rivkah

How about 0/41/30? Last I looked it wasn't that far behind 0/40/31 and it doesn't have conflag. Can it still stand up to affliction?

Yes 0/41/30 can stand up to affliction for now. Problem is down the road 0/41/30 starts having scaling issues. The lastest sims are up.

Avirex · 04/15/09, 6:31 PM

Originally Posted by Ticia

As jorysaywut mentioned, both of these points have been discussed. First off, in order for your 2% damage to be more than someone else's 5% damage, you would have to be doing 2.5 times as much dps as they are. So if you are doing 5000 dps, they are doing 2000. In that case, obviously you choose someone else to Tricks.

As for the threat issue, that was answered about starting with this post. In the situation where there is a question of threat, it is equally beneficial to TotT the tank, and increase the threat cap for the entire raid, allowing them to do more damage and raising rDPS.

My apologies then, I guess I missed those posts. 63 pages is a lot to sift through!

Beech · 04/15/09, 6:41 PM

Edit: Didn't mean to make a post and I can't figure out how to delete this one?

Trashh · 04/15/09, 6:55 PM

I hope they will do something for the destu spec

Aeiri · 04/15/09, 8:49 PM

So is the conflag hotfix actually live right now? Or is it in the process of being implemented.

NinjaMafia · 04/15/09, 9:06 PM

Could someone explain to me how Meta spec is superior to affliction? I love meta and would like some help on using it. (Rotation, when to pop meta, etc)

Valca · 04/15/09, 9:13 PM

Since our guild is in need of one DK i rerolled from Retri to DK.
God i cant understand you. Everything at the Retri elitistjerks forum is easy and understandable but the way Dk forum is, is just weird. Why do you post a blood frost and unholy dps topic. There must be 1 superiour so why keep talking about the other 2? Its just a mess for someone who wants to learn Dk to read through all this nonsense. "I use this rotation" "I use that rotation". There must be 1 rotation for single dps for instance which is superiour to the rest.

Hungtar · 04/16/09, 12:01 AM

The repair guy, close to the entrance, he seems almost, but not quite, entirely unlike some figure from Madmax, does'nt he? This struck me as a guild member wonderd why a goblin would ride on an ogre :-)

fearmee · 04/16/09, 1:44 AM

hey whats a good free prog to view the xls file... the one i have i cant edit anything

Azreluna · 04/16/09, 2:09 AM

So, why is agi assumed the best stat? In Vulajin's sheet I always got more DPS out of AP over agi.

OMGWTHHITME · 04/16/09, 2:41 AM

Just as I started to like the new hybrid spec, they screw it up. Now that the conflag damage has been completely nerfed, is it safe to say that 0/41/30 is a safe choice, or should I learn how to play affliction and spec that way?

Beezer · 04/16/09, 3:32 AM

Excellent post. Thank you for this.

shadowrom · 04/16/09, 4:00 AM

Faqs really helpfull, great fan of your work and sense of humour !

tkoreaper · 04/16/09, 4:11 AM

I was thinking... shouldn't Cataclysm be pretty much a worthless spec? I mean, with the Life Tap glyph you're expected to life tap every 20 seconds so what difference would reducing mana cost of destruction spells make? It came to my attention as I was speccing for affliction and I noticed 1 spare point is left and it's put in to Cataclysm. Isn't there somewhere else that we could put that to get more use out of that point?

Neflite · 04/16/09, 4:12 AM

Has anyone already got a chart including the conflag nerf.....concerning a comparison to alle Raiding 3.1 Speccs?
The forums already talk about a 50% nerf instead of 30%.....if that's truth, i can't believe 0/40/31 will still be on top (excluding DG-Speccs)

tkoreaper · 04/16/09, 4:15 AM

Originally Posted by Neflite

Has anyone already got a chart including the conflag nerf.....concerning a comparison to alle Raiding 3.1 Speccs?
The forums already talk about a 50% nerf instead of 30%.....if that's truth, i can't believe 0/40/31 will still be on top (excluding DG-Speccs)

Look at this Thread: Simulationcraft on post-3.1 specs
It already shows that 0/40/31 is no longer top DPS, and that's WITH the conflag nerf.

Maztrim · 04/16/09, 4:20 AM

hello everyone i was wondering about the rotation below 35% , would you still be applying Dots and conflag while weaving ? or would you just stick to the weaving 2:1, 1:1 rotation? thankyou

jeanvaljean · 04/16/09, 4:39 AM

Originally Posted by Maztrim

hello everyone i was wondering about the rotation below 35% , would you still be applying Dots and conflag while weaving ? or would you just stick to the weaving 2:1, 1:1 rotation? thankyou

You should still definitely weave, as you can see in the charts, the damage pr. execution time of immolate, the two shadow dots, and in particular, conflagrate is still very high, so definitely worth it. Particularly because immolate is a must for incinerates, and shadow dots have the chance of buffing your fire damage through molten core.

VenomByte · 04/16/09, 5:36 AM

Originally Posted by tkoreaper

I was thinking... shouldn't Cataclysm be pretty much a worthless spec? I mean, with the Life Tap glyph you're expected to life tap every 20 seconds so what difference would reducing mana cost of destruction spells make? It came to my attention as I was speccing for affliction and I noticed 1 spare point is left and it's put in to Cataclysm. Isn't there somewhere else that we could put that to get more use out of that point?

My thoughts exactly. I have decided to put the spare point in Fel Synergy, since my pet management isn't great and they croak more often than I would like. The other option I was considering was a point in Grim Reach, for those occasions where a little extra flexibility comes in very handy. Both options seem better than Cataclysm.