Out of the 3.0.8. best Raid dps thread, I think it should be noted here as well, as I don`t read every other thread in the forum, I guess others don`tb do as well..
21/50/0 4pc T7(,5).
OB OB IT BS dump - OB OB BS IT dump, without any lag/reaction, gives you about 5 fs to fit in perfectly. It genereates 208 RP (with IT glyph).
Going for UP, it will give you 218 RP instead of simply 208 (adding in HoW), meaning that you can push out 1, 75 more FSs per rotation as well as 0,3 HB uses due to rime (15% on 2 ITs per rotation, means 1 procc every 66,6 secs). Auto attacks will do "roughly" the same damage, I won`t look at them now. So you got 15% of 5 FSs, 4 OBs, 2BSs and 2 ITs compared to 1,5 FSs and 0,3 HBs. This should most clearly be won by the BP.
The main problem now is lag, when you use BP, you got a total of 0,5 seconds of time for lag/reaction, every 20 seconds, which is of course too less. Considering you got a GC of 1,6 Seconds is much more likely, thus giving you 13*0,1 seconds of loss, meaning you lose 0,8 seconds per rotation, if you simply keep following it. That would be a los of 4% of damage, meaning BP just dropped to 11% (oh and you lose a bit more, but keep it simple now ) . So you roughly lose 4% of damage per 0,1 second of delay on a cast. As we can see, the more time you lose on your styles the superipr UP get`s and it get`s better very fast, as you still got your 1,75 FSs, 0,3 HB, free HoW refresh and maybe other stuff like getting a mate to be a cool ghoul or the like.
Things to consider as well:
- Ghoul glyph, instead of IT glyph, as you got enough RP, when using BP
- Movement problems other things that let you abort/pause rotation, both will most likely benefit UP
- huge lag - when you got a gc of 5 seconds and you shouldn`t wipe, BP is the way to go
Overall it`s a great question if UP beats BP, but it will depend on lag and reaction time a lot, as they aren`t that much away from each another.
1. What exactly is the optimal shot rotation for MM and can it be partially macroed or is it necessarily 100% weaved? I understand that hunters can no longer obtain optimal dps by simply smashing one macro, but with so many shots compared to a BM rot, I was hoping some of them could be macroed, while I manually weave the rest.
2. Also what are the preferred glyphs for a MM hunter? I was looking at steady, serpent and AotH.
Thanks in advance.
Last edited by Trollslayer : 01/25/09 at 9:41 AM.
I am at 300ms (wifi ftl ) I can not get Arcane Barrage to Clip properly Before the 5th AM tick using the non channeling macro. I am at max range and it still does not work, I get 5th AM tick and a Normal Damage Abarr.
I was in the same situation. The macro was of no use to me at all. I would only get normal damage ABarr hits. (could be the fact i play at <250ms?). People with better ping might have better results with the macro.
So i'm casting ABarr manually. I can pretty much get 95% chance of it working for my ABarr now. Even if the macro did work for me, I'd still not use it.
I use Quartz cast bar. And for it to show the latency.
So what i do.
AB x3, AM, as my AM spell channels, as soon as the cast bar gets about half way in the red latency bar, i spam ABarr. Then back to AB x 3, etc. repeat. It's pretty easy with a little bit of practice. Have to be careful not to ABarr to early or you will miss the 5th AM.
Hello guys, I'd like to ask you if you are still using molten armor or you've changed to mage armor? Seems to me that with molten armor im running oom really really fast and im about 20-30% of the fight trying to spam my skills to get another cast off. Should I just use mage armor and change the molten armor glyph to a mana gem one?
One more thing, I dont have much pieces with +haste. should I start regemming for haste (instead of potent) and replace some pieces? I dont really know how can I tell the stats' value. I've tried to do so with Rawr but it only shows improvent for my gear (which im not sure they even are), guess im doing something wrong here as well.
Just hit 80 about 3 days ago
only problem ive snagged so far is threat The World of Warcraft Armory
what do you guys think would be my next step into increasing my threat
my main rotation for single target(which is where my most trouble comes from) is IT-PS-BS-OB/FS and repeat
I don't think disc builds have SoR, which gives 5% spirit.
lol... heard of Enlightenment? 5% stam, spirit, and spell haste.
btw these kinds of questions really belong in the simple questions/answers thread, or else you could just look through this thread, as there is more than enough information about spirit vs. int vs. mp5 here already without making more posts.
I apologize if someone's already asked / posted about this, but is there an addon that tells you when Slam! procs? I have a blood DK and an enh shaman in raids, so the unleashed rage / abomination's might buff spam is getting in the way of me noticing it
The differences are:
My build takes 3/3 in Hawk Eye and 0/2 in Savage Strikes, instead of 1/3 in Hawk Eye and 2/3 in Savage Strikes.
the other difference is that my build has 3/3 Expose weakness, but the build linked on this first site has 2/3 expose weakness and gives the last point to 1/5 hunting Party instead.
These small Differences, does it has a huge outcome on the DPS?
What other positive and negative inpacts does my version have compared to this threads version?