Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1432

Shimo · 12/16/10, 6:15 PM

Hello,

which mainhand weapon will you prefer (of course in connection with a combat specc)?

[Cruel Barb] or [Lava Spine]

I'm not really sure. Is a 129 agility leakage, a pure 52,7 dps plus worth?

Thanks!

weswtp · 12/16/10, 6:45 PM

Originally Posted by Brig

I've been following the hit/expertise cap discussion for a bit now, and decided to go full on mastery (ignoring hit and exp) to see what it would result in. Tonight my guild and I entered Blackwing Descend for the first time and had some test tries on Omnitron Defense System. I was raiding with 0.89% hit and 8 expertise and the amount of misses got me so utterly frustrated that I simply cannot understand why anyone would advocate for simply ignoring these two stats and just stack full on mastery. Occasions where I had to Mangle three times to apply the mangle debuff, rips missing, severl misses of ferocious bite in a row. I just can't understand why someone would be okay with this, especially in progression raids. One one of our Magmaw tries I missed Faerie Fire 4 times consecutively.

Are there any new insights on this matter, because I simply can't understand why this is advised by some people?

I to am in the same boat. Though, I just made a post about it in the Kitty Q&A forums.

molson · 12/16/10, 10:30 PM

Still not sure why OP lists destro spec with Imp SP - you don't even need simcraft to see that BoH is worth spending one point, when the point you're taking it out of is never cast - look at the priority list:

Priorities:
flask,type=draconic_mind/food,type=seafood_magnifique_feast/fel_armor/summon_imp
dark_intent/snapshot_stats/volcanic_potion,if=buff.bloodlust.react|!in_combat
demon_soul/soulburn,if=buff.bloodlust.down
soul_fire,if=buff.improved_soul_fire.cooldown_remains<(cast_time+travel_time)&buff.bl oodlust.down&!in_flight
bane_of_doom,if=(remains<3|!ticking)&target.time_to_die>=15&miss_react
immolate,if=(remains<cast_time+gcd|!ticking)&target.time_to_die>=4&miss_react
conflagrate/corruption,if=(!ticking|dot.corruption.remains<tick_time)&miss_react
shadowflame/chaos_bolt/soul_fire,if=buff.empowered_imp.react|buff.soulburn.up
summon_infernal/incinerate/life_tap

Where is searing pain? Nowhere, it's not cast. As far as simcraft is concerned, neither is BoH - on a Patchwerk style fight. In current content, there are enough encounters with multiple mobs that there is no reason whatsoever not to take it. You lose nothing by taking the point out of Imp Searing Pain, a spell that is never cast.

As an example, here's a breakdown from a BoT Ascendent Council attempt (5% wipe QQ):

300k (8% dmg) for 2 GCD. Can someone please explain why this is not worth taking when the sacrifice is literally 0 DPS??

Stephano · 12/16/10, 11:02 PM

Hi there:

What is the new haste thresholds, at level 85.

Ottara · 12/17/10, 12:24 AM

Will someone create a Shadow Priest Compendium??!!

I have always been a Disc priest but want to change to dps for this expansion. I know tha shadowpriest.com has some information but it is spread all over their site in small bits and pieces and it is almost impossible to put any clear information together.

I also prefer you guys over anyone else for my source of information.

I am having a very hard time maintaining any kind of a decent DPS and figuring a "rotation" of sorts that will keep things going and not deplete my mana instantly. I know there is no rotation to speak of for the shadow priest, but there is a lot about it that I do not understand, like when to use the orbs and when to use MS instead of DOTs and all that stuff.

Well in short, it would be great if someone could make a post on here that outlines all this information, like the stuff that is posted for the healer priests.

If someone would like to help me, feel free to contact me on here by pesonal message (I think I can recieve them) or come find me on the Alliance side of Burning Legion (US) and lets chat. My characters name is Ottara.

Thank you for your time!!!

jugajuga · 12/17/10, 2:42 AM

Originally Posted by Emeraude

So I've noticed that I'm quite constantly able to squeeze in a 4th attack into Colossus Smash with maybe .2 or .3 seconds left on the debuff

i notice the same. i've noticed a delay between CS hit and CS debuff application.

nevjerni toma · 12/17/10, 2:48 AM

hello mates

i start playing with my warrior after one year stance. i read all what u write at this topic, and i just wanna ask ( im not good in wow, its cold now, out is snow and i have some time to play and get fun

) can u please put me best rotation for warrior pve/pvp? and macors too?

)

thyvm

Payne1128 · 12/17/10, 3:22 AM

Im a little lost when they say Frostfire orb should be used? I dont have that?..I have a flame orb is that the same can it be used?..I can not seem to hold a decent dps, I start out great then it goes down, Im level 85, and can not get through one heroic dung....

Jarlaxle · 12/17/10, 4:11 AM

I'm trying to figure out what is the BiS 346 main hand dagger for Assassination.

I currently have the Meteor Shard, however I'm not sure how good the proc is (or how to calculate it) compared to say, the stats you get from Steelbender's Masterpiece. It appears that the list for MH weapons on the first page of this thread isn't in order of EP value. I only ask because we are about to start raiding real content.

Thanks

Syncness · 12/17/10, 4:48 AM

I figured it would be most fitting to post this here rather than the Simple Questions and Answers thread.

I'd like to state that Mongoose MH, Hurricane OH > Hurricane MH/OH > Avalanche MH/OH.

Though I have no mathematical proof, we can use the top 5 rogues on Argaloth (which is almost a Patchwerk type fight).

The fight logs from World of Logs: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

The rogues themselves:
Dhany: 17381 - Hurricane/Hurricane
Isvinz: 17296 - Mongoose/Hurricane
Двпэ: 17057 - Mongoose/Mongoose
Draghnela: 16801 - Hurricane/Hurricane
Ferniya: 16554 - Avalanche/Avalanche

Now that I think of it, I should've taken 25M examples, but regardless, 10M is still a fine sample.

Syncness · 12/17/10, 5:04 AM

Originally Posted by speeddymon

Ok, I just need to make a quick request.. Can the items be updated to show ilvl or at lease the (H) tag in the first column of the spreadsheet? I just bought out one of the normal ones because I didn't notice that it was the (H) version listed as BiS.

You just bought out a normal one? because the H version?

You paid someone because you didn't win the roll? O.o should've looked carefully perhaps.

Could always update it yourself, normals are generalls 333, quest blues are 333 (those that made it to the list mostly), heroics are 346 etc.

Pyrates · 12/17/10, 6:07 AM

Are there any details on the choice of glyphs? I'd like to know about the choice of Tiger's Fury over Savage Roar in particular, which is a pretty complicated thing after all (well, TF is), and I'd not trust the known tools to handle that 100% correctly. Anybody got any insight?

Akronos · 12/17/10, 8:55 AM

mh what do you think is the +20 agility +30 stamina stone good to ?

Darkdep · 12/17/10, 9:50 AM

Originally Posted by molson

Other than the spec linked in the OP and posts #32, 33, and 34? While the spec linked on the front page may yield the same results in simcraft regardless of those 2 talent points due to modeling, I found it misleading to not include those talents for anyone checking the front page for the "best" or preferred spec. Apologies if the tone of my previous post came off as rude, just wanted to make sure that I (and any other warlocks that visit the thread) have the most current information.

I think the Destro spec is missing an overall current "here's what you should do" type post like we have for Demonology at the moment. The information in the OP is a start though.

I'm currently using this Destro spec, based on what I've been through so far with Heroics. Aftermath (for the Conflag Stun) is very useful in mob fights to give you more burn time before something eats your face, and given the current difficulty healing I find Nether Protection / Nether ward helpful as well. I'm experimenting with taking the point out of Shadowburn and putting a third point into Improved Corruption, but I know many would disagree with that move.

Kyreles · 12/17/10, 9:50 AM

Is the spell power coefficient for Pyroblast! 42.86% because it's instant or does it count as (I think) 115%. Also, I'm sure it's does, but Glyph of Pyroblast affects this right? I mean, it doesn't have the exclimation point, but it must count for both, right?