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Old 12/17/10, 6:26 PM   #21511
Def_ender
 
Стригид
Troll Druid
 
Черный Шрам
FFB+FB burn rotation

Hello.
I just imagined one interesting thing about burn dps rotation and glyphs.
You can use FFB glyph for stackin DOT and recast it for 100% uptime, plus use fireball as usual spell.
you just get one more button in rotation, no mana cost increases, but one more tickin dot gives you additional damage via mastery and (!) combustion.
If somebody have some free time for test- try it.
Thanks.

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Old 12/17/10, 6:27 PM   #21512
weswtp
Glass Joe
 
Troll Druid
 
Drenden
I picked up [Unheeded Warning] last night and was wondering if/where any numbers had been run on this for viability.

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Old 12/17/10, 8:04 PM   #21513
Jaerel
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Mage
 
Kalecgos
Originally Posted by DiddyMao View Post
Yes the glyph does effect Pyroblast!, It's two different spells same damage same coefficient just mana cost that is changed.
Actually pyroblast! is slightly more damage ~4%.

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Old 12/17/10, 9:08 PM   #21514
Keldarn
Von Kaiser
 
Human Warlock
 
Silvermoon (EU)
Originally Posted by nehcnhoj View Post
Just out of curiosity, what is the logic behind casting our soulfire such that it refreshes the buff "ideally" 0.1 secs after the buff runs off?
I'm not sure whether it's a bug or a feature, but at the moment soulfire landing while the soulfire buff is still active does not refresh its timer. My guess is that is the reason.

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Old 12/17/10, 9:16 PM   #21515
ceasefire
Von Kaiser
 
Gnome Warrior
 
Stormrage
Hey guys, I sat out all of WOTLK and just impulsively bought Cataclysm. I've done a lot of reading but did not have time to go through every Profession tree for the changes.

Do you know the consensus best professions for PvE DPS and PvP? I read that LW gives a strong primary stat boost that is very imbalanced at the moment. But my Warrior is a 450 Engineer/190 JC and I'm probably going to stick with Engineering for battlegrounds and such. I have no issues with dropping JC if there is a better theorycrafted profession.

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Old 12/17/10, 9:24 PM   #21516
Gungor
 
Orc Shaman
 
Doomhammer
Well wouldnt you also benefit more from crit just because of TC?

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Old 12/17/10, 9:26 PM   #21517
Demi9OD
Don Flamenco
 
Orc Warlock
 
Shadowmoon
His point was why start casting Soul Fire with 3.2 seconds left on the buff instead of waiting till the last possible moment while still hasted to begin Soul Fire. But this seems obvious, if you cast as soon as possible and finish your Soul Fire before the buff runs out, your next spell will also be hasted, and ISF can expire as the missile travels. If the next cast in your rotation takes longer than travel time, you cast nothing unhasted.

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Old 12/17/10, 10:15 PM   #21518
Cirque
Banned
 
Turretsquid
Draenei Shaman
 
No WoW Account (EU)
I'm really confused for days trying to find an answer, this may be because I haven't slept much, but here's my issue.

What are the stats to go for for every spec? When I look at the Cata spreadsheet thread, taking for example destro's stats, it'd seem crit is better than haste (why?). However, checking out the BiS gear and reforges used in the simcraft, it's all about haste, even crit being reforged to haste. Why is crit supposed to be better and why is this not reflected in the choice of gear for the simcraft?

My dps is not bad despite my lacking gear and I've been going for crit, but still, I've compiled several wishlists for myself but keep bumping on the question: what stat is truly best for every spec, and especially destruction?

Thanks for the answer and my apologies if I missed something. I've been looking for this answer for days and revived my EJ account for it (though I don't think I ever posted with it).

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Old 12/18/10, 5:40 AM   #21519
Houndst0oth
 
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Worgen Mage
 
Icecrown
Doesn't the heart grant close to the same amount of Haste that Time Warp/Lust/Hero grants? On a 2 minute cooldown?

I'm also very curious to see at what point it becomes favorable to use a pure scorch rotation. Having seen a fair share of the current raid encounters I would say the only fight where it even becomes a question is Atramedes, other than our friendly blind dragon I would go so far as to say that of the fights I have seen, there is not one fight where it becomes a viable way to DPS. After extensive target dummy testing in my gear (obviously not BiS but, seriously, no one will see that for a good while now and we might as well use threads like this to discuss current situations where the information would be immediately useful, no?) it seems that Pure Scorch segments will equal close to 3k in lost dps. That's a massive number over the course of a fight, and sometimes the difference between a kill and not with some of the current boss fights (Chimearon and Twilight Ascendant Council come to mind).

Honestly I think we need to look at scorch as our way to maintain DPS only when forced to move. FORCED to move. It's Blizzards boon to mages for creating a number of mechanics in the current tier of bosses that REQUIRE movement from nearly every raid member at some point in the fight. I don't know, maybe I'm reading too much into the section advocating a pure scorch rotation. I've always come to these forums to improve my DPS, this suggestion of a pure scorch rotation is foolish to be frank, and such a rotation should be avoided at all costs.

I would love to see more discussion about actual situations that require some theory crafting. What fights is it a dps gain to use Mage Armor over Molten? Are there even any such instances? What does our AoE rotation look like currently? It cannot possibly be Blast Wave, Flamestrike to OOM, it's far too short of a duration AoE rotation and in fights like Omnitron or Magmaw, where there are adds that have to die asap, what is the highest DPS sustainable rotation?

Maybe that's not what this thread is for? Is this only an enclave for spreadsheets and theory?


Long time reader, first time poster.

Last edited by Houndst0oth : 12/18/10 at 5:55 AM.

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Old 12/18/10, 6:51 AM   #21520
Shakaros
Von Kaiser
 
Human Paladin
 
Xavius (EU)
Can we have this thread moderated? I dont think I've seen this much litter in an EJ thread for a long time.
People discussing 5-mans or the odd random raid encounter they've seen anecdotally.

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Old 12/18/10, 8:49 AM   #21521
Berrijelo
 
Undead Mage
 
Earthen Ring
Weapon enchant?

I saw [Enchant Weapon - Heartsong] and [Enchant Weapon - Power Torrent] for weapon enchant, how do those stack up to [Enchant Weapon - Hurricane]?

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Old 12/18/10, 12:21 PM   #21522
Xtek
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warrior
 
Shattered Hand
Hey there fellow Warriors.

I'm currently SMF trying it out and I heard some chatter about once you hit 8% don't worry about trying to gem for it anymore and just go for Crit/STR/Haste. Is this true? Is it worth it?

After talking with some other Warriors it seems like Heroic Strike is their main attack priority and after that it's BT, RB and Slam. I've tried this out with pretty good success. Just wondering what everyone else is seeing.

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Old 12/18/10, 1:59 PM   #21523
mswarrior
 
Human Paladin
 
Perenolde
First off i would like to say hello to the e/j paladin community. have been reading these forums ever since i started my paladin but never really posted here. Know on to my question. I was wondering if i should drop blacksmithing and take leatherworking. i currently have blacksmithing and jewelcrafting, the leatherworking bonus seems to far outwiegh the two gemslots u you get from blacksmithig. should i drop blacksmithing and take leatherworking?

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Old 12/18/10, 2:12 PM   #21524
cyberthug3232
 
Human Warlock
 
Elune
Trinkets

I see its up for discussion, Darkmoon Card: volcano?
Darkmoon Card: Volcano - Item - World of Warcraft

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Old 12/18/10, 4:48 PM   #21525
Chillflo
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Tirion (EU)
Hello,

first of all, excuse my bad english please ^^

The new PvP had season startet and you can buy the new PvP equipment.
My question ist, is it worthwile, to geht the new PvP daggers, because they make more DpS than the daggers you can get in the Heroics.
i know, resilence isn´t a great PvE stat, but they make more DpS ^^
So i asked you, what you would do.
Thanks!

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