The reason at this point is that getting a heal before you die is not a problem in the cata world.
However, healer mana is limited quite a bit and avoiding attacks will net your healers less damage to heal over time, making you able to survive longer.
Gemming basically exclusive stamina is going bye-bye, unless we start getting 2 shot in heroic raids.
I see...that would make sense. And with threat being a non-issue, it seems all the bears I've looked at don't really care about hit/expertise all that much. And I can only assume that enchants will change as mats become more readily available.
Speaking on enchants, it's seemingly more and more viable that bears stick to +130 agility weapon enchant. I haven't seen any bears go for the 600 dodge rating proc weapon enchant, or is that only because people don't have it yet?
This has been quite insightful (and expensive as I change my druid as information becomes available).
Yeah, the reason is that the enchant requires 525 chanting, along with 5 Maelstrom Crystals to buy alone. Then it also requires 6 Maelstrom Crystals to do the enchant. So even if you're on a big server, Maelstrom Crystals are more than likely absurdly expensive, if available at all.
130 Agi is relatively cheap and very available once your enchanter gets their new rod.
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I see. Thanks for pointing me to the other spread sheet. I am finding it a little difficult to find SOLID information on tanking as a druid in cata. this is probably because solid data is just coming in. There is alot of information about paladin tanking, but I am finding the EJ community to be more focused on the proper information. That's why I take what is said here a little more seriously =).
One additonal note, since Fire Blast is an Instant Spell and is also available to be buffed with a talent point, I have been mixing it into my rotations on the 2nd and 3rd phase of a fight. It has been proc'ing AM alot. When I do throw it in, being keybound, I hit that then Barrage almost instantly if I don't see the proc from Missiles. That gives me 2 spell chances before going back to AB again.
I believe using this will work out better than mixing in Flame Orb.
My personal findings thus far, is that no matter whether you gem stamina(which we, as a community of tanking Druids, are mostly against), you can still get through normal content.
When Adept was world first heroic earlier last week, I checked their druid tank; BOOM, all stamina gems, reforged for expertise/hit. Zero dodge reforging.
What's that say?
Means that it makes a small enough difference that with good players around you, whatever you do, you can succeed. However effective it is compared to the other strategies isn't as huge a difference as we make it out to be.
If you check out the official forums, there are quite a few of us that wield the torch and try to bring good information to the masses, however drowned out it is. We had some very very very good discussions on the official forums over the past few months about avoidance, and we realized it would be a very good stat for bears in tier 11 content.
No what I've found is that the incorrect model(aka stacking stamina) will not hinder you from clearing normal and even heroic raids, provided the group is good enough. A world first kill in a heroic raid is enough to justify that it is possible.
Ah, I see. It sounds like that the druid is depending on the play skill of the people around him/her in order to play a style that he/she is comfortable with(stack stam), rather than one that is, generally, more healer friendly and safer(dodge/avoidance).
Is there another Blood spec out there, I've tried the Lichborne/Death Coil and it just seems to not be worth anything, my heals are always keeping me pretty alive and Death Strike is also helping a lot too. I'm just seeing if there was an alternative as that spec although is good for some, just isn't something for me as the healing hasn't really helped all that much.
Ive been meaning to test UF at the start of each new FS refresh, bc it seems to me that it would be a DPS increase but with all the post I have read, seems as if no one gets a real DPS increase. Ill be posting some logs soon.
Hey guys, was wondering if the wrath ap to weapon enchant(massacre) might be worthwhile before we get landslide. Any help would be appretiated.
I would think not. Until we can get landslide id say go with Hurricane if you have a good weapon to put it on. If your talking about a herioc blue that maybe it isnt to bad. For me I have Zin Rokh so I put Hurricane on it in the mean time. It procs really well and I don't believe it has a ICD.