Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1459

winst · 12/27/10, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Kmsangel

Thanks for the answer.
Which leads me to a other question.

Is it better to just drop Rupture in the rotation, and only use Envenomed?
SnD > Envenomed

Or as the guides tell
SnD > Rupture > Envenomed.

As far i can see, there are no use for Venomous Wounds, besides the opening with Garote. if you don't use Rupture in the rotation, but he is sure that he can make more dps with out Rupture in the rotation.

I'm quite confused as to what you're asking now but I'll try and sufficiently answer this.

Venomous Wounds ( Venomous Wounds - Spell - World of Warcraft ) adds a 60% chance for each Garrote and Rupture tick to deal nature damage and grant you 10 energy. The damage is effected by Mastery and scales impressively with your Attack Power.

Venomous Wounds and therefore Rupture is integral to the Assassination playstyle in Cataclysm. If you don't spec it you are doing less than optimal DPS. If you do spec it, but don't use Rupture, you are doing less than optimal DPS.

The priority in nearly every situation is: SnD > Rupture > Envenom.

Alensia · 12/27/10, 11:33 AM

Good points on the 4pc T11, fellow retributers. So has anyone done any calculations on 2pc PvP vs. 4pc T11?

dotzndie · 12/27/10, 11:57 AM

Whats the most optimal rotation atm?
SF, UA, BoA, Corr, Haunt, CDs, SBolt Spam...or
SF, Haunt, BoA, Corr, UA, CDs, Sbolt Spam..

Er00 · 12/27/10, 12:34 PM

Something I've noticed recently (within the last week or so) is that when I use Impact to spread DoTs, Living Bomb pretty much always vanishes from the target I used Impact on, even if I literally only just put LB up (so I'm certain it's not wearing off). I mentioned this to a friend earlier and he said he'd not noticed it, but then a few minutes later he said that it was happening to him too. I'll do some tests later on the dummies and see if I can replicate it and check how often it happens but was wondering if other people had noticed it.

*edit*
Had a think and suspecting this is *probably* due to the 3 target limit on LB. I'll test some and check this is the case, but it seems the most likely culprit.

Mconniff · 12/27/10, 1:24 PM

Neara,

I will give it a try. I just like the ability to keep tank or a target healed or cured without having to mouse over him. I press the "5" key and flash heal happens either on me or my target whether or not he is "Mouseover" or not.

The Wayward Priest

Kmsangel · 12/27/10, 1:37 PM

well you gave me the answer i wanted.

Why i asked was: The other rogue (he has played rogue for long time) told me that it was waste of energy and combo points to be using Rupture as a Rogue, no matter spec.

And using it as a Assassin rogue would just do that you made less dps then 1 not using it

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And that was against all logic i know about rogues, and was the reason i asked the question

Teohetimokan · 12/27/10, 2:10 PM

Originally Posted by Paladin0228

I have been playing dual wield dps on my Dk and frequently i end up in situations where I am forced to kite and interrupt ( in heroics )

I sacrificed On a pale Horse in order to pick up Endless Winter which is fine, however I have also considered picking up Chillbains........

Between Imp Blood Tap or Epidemic, which talent would be the most ok to sacrifice points from for Chillbains ? I am currently running a build that dropped 2 from Epidemic, but am unsure if that is the best route.

I think improved tap is the best choice, epidemic is far more important.

Can someone tell me how much haste rating is the GCD cap for DW frost ? Kahories says around 8,43%.

Delphi · 12/27/10, 2:14 PM

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hypetech · 12/27/10, 2:16 PM

Originally Posted by Er00

Something I've noticed recently (within the last week or so) is that when I use Impact to spread DoTs, Living Bomb pretty much always vanishes from the target I used Impact on, even if I literally only just put LB up (so I'm certain it's not wearing off). I mentioned this to a friend earlier and he said he'd not noticed it, but then a few minutes later he said that it was happening to him too. I'll do some tests later on the dummies and see if I can replicate it and check how often it happens but was wondering if other people had noticed it.

*edit*
Had a think and suspecting this is *probably* due to the 3 target limit on LB. I'll test some and check this is the case, but it seems the most likely culprit.

This bug has been occuring since the 3 LB limit was implemented before Cata. On a related note, impacts from other mages in your raid were also able remove your own LBs on occasion. I haven't seen Blizzard acknowledge the bug, but there have been many posts in the official bug forum on the issue over the past couple of months.

TenaciousTomato · 12/27/10, 2:33 PM

As a combat rogue, would it be more beneficial to me to stack hit near the white cap? Or cap expertise?

Sgat8516 · 12/27/10, 2:36 PM

Originally Posted by Mconniff

Neara,

I will give it a try. I just like the ability to keep tank or a target healed or cured without having to mouse over him. I press the "5" key and flash heal happens either on me or my target whether or not he is "Mouseover" or not.

The Wayward Priest

That sounds more like an issue with what addons your running. All mouseover macro's should work on character frames, unless there is a specific issue with those.
Could also be another addon interfering with mouseover targetting of certain frames (Clique is bad about that, in deselecting certain frames from mouseover lists).

Rathimis · 12/27/10, 3:13 PM

Has anyone tried/modeled/contemplated: Inq > HoW > CS(if <3 HP) > Exo > TV > CS > J > HW > Cons

The reason I've been doing it this way is probably because I'm Holy and relate CS to HS. It does make sense to me tho.... The holy power generation of CS is 100% and you can't get it back if you push CS back one GCD to cast Exo. The fact that you have a 20% chance to miss an AoW proc on your next melee swing makes me think we should be watching our swing timer?

You might get a DP proc on Exo after the CS, but that gets stored in the buffer, so nothing is lost.

Just a thought I had, it might be worth even more consideration once TV starts beating Exo by a certain %

Lillocks · 12/27/10, 3:40 PM

I would think that the optimal affliction rotation is Haunt SF UA Corr BoA CDs SB spams

This makes sense to me, in that UA after SF allows for travel time, so that your haste buff will be active by the time it gets on the boss. I'd imagine that Corruption should go on next, as I believe it has a higher DPET that CoA, but I may be wrong, and would appreciate anyone in the know correcting me.

Also, just wondering if the way Haunt works has changed. If it falls off, will the active DoTs on your target tick for lower? Alternatively, if you cast haunt on a target that already has dots, will they begin to gain the bonus, or do you have to hard cast them again? Thanks guys, from the raiding experience so far looks like we will be tops for many of our fights.

dotzndie · 12/27/10, 3:51 PM

It doesn't matter if your dots hit the target before soulfire, because if you check the tooltip on the target its now updated automatically when u gain a haste increase, instead of having to recast your dots when you get a haste proc.

Lasgan · 12/27/10, 3:55 PM

now we are in talk about avoidance.. what are a roughly esimation of the caps for Parry/dodge/Mastery now ? what should i Aim for ? how many percent of each ?