Avoidance goes down with more swings taken? that's a new one for me.

Just because you got a lucky string of avoided attacks with 22% combined dodge/parry and unlucky with with 26% doesn't mean it as DR like that.

Well, DR kicks in the second you get your first parry/dodge rating point, the only thing that changes at 1200 rating is the DR curve, meaning you will need more rating to get 1% of the stat.

What the previous also means is that you may get more benefits by getting mastery rating instead of parry/dodge at that point, but that is yet to be proven and atm pretty much all tanks are going with gut feeling on how to actually best balance the 3 stats.

According to avoidance-blood-shield (I believe this was posted before) some top guilds DK tanks seem to actually go over that 1200 rating and aim for a combined dodge/parry between 23% and 27% and then start going for mastery.
Are they doing it for specific encounters or because those where the numbers they have reach together with their healers to be the best?

I do think Blizzard manage to get parry/dodge/mastery pretty well balanced in such a way that you will always need to evaluate the 3 and balance them because they will constantly keep swapping position as your gear evolves.

Another thing we need to remember is that mastery is subject to human error, making it a good stat when properly used and a so so stat if you use it badly (DS timing).

In the end we are lacking logs (and blood shield tracking in them), a good number of them to actually make a case for of the stats.

I completely agree yet if you run to the pub forums you'll see most posts quoting this post which gives a completely bananas picture of stat prio.

Hello Rivkah,

I was wondering if you can bypass pulling item id for Tot4W items since they share same id and even wowhead and battle.net have no means to show them as separate items properly? If so, I have compiled all relevant hunter loot that drops there in one excel spreadsheet which you can freely use at:

Download throne_items.xls for free on uploading.com

The way I found about how these random stats are determined is mainly by using wowwiki (Item suffix - Wowpedia - Your wiki guide to the World of Warcraft) and checking some of them on battle.net armory i.e. Mistral Circle - Game - World of Warcraft. Note that armory is not able to show both secondary stats and it shows only one instead. I can verify that my list is 100% accurate since I have two different items from that raid (ring and belt) and they have exact same stats shown in my spreadsheet. Reforging these items is no different that reforging any other item, by the way.

Hope you can use this piece of information since people are eager to start playing with best in slot pieces (and at least one item from this raid is gonna make it into BiS list).

Cheers,
Iwenna.

I really want this spec to work for dungeons/raids. I was Combat until WOTLK and then went Assassination. I love Assassination, but I really like the crit machine that subtlety can be. I am trying 8/2/31 (although I'm not 85 yet) and getting some decent results. (From what little I can see) Unbuffed and with crappy gear I have a 66% Crit chance with Backstab and 96% crit chance with Ambush and can get off a 5 point combo ever 2-3 seconds.

However, this spec has been fail in the past and I was wondering if this spec will be fail for raiding.

I've only recently rerolled elemental shammy, and however usefull this thread is, I just can't seem to find any BiS gearlist.

Is it possible to post one and keep it updated throughout cata?

Hey all,

First I want to apologize if I'm asking something that already been said in the earlier post. It is just I'm kinda a newbie and it's hard to understand all the information that is going on in here

After doing some reading online I don't seem to find a conclusive opinion about what stat should I (as a feral cat) put my money on. Agility is number one of course but what is number two? three? four?

I believe that we should invest all the reforging on haste and hit until to cap them and then mastery and critical. What do you think?

Furthermore, what is the best prismatic gem for us?
Should I exchange some of my +40 Agility gems for +40 Mastery?
And for the end, what is the best rotation?

Thank you all and again I apologize if these information already been answered in previous post.

Well since I have not heard a response regarding mastery the succubus I have retorted my gear to reduce crit and increase mastery. It's not much, but I'm going to test it out myself. I'm also going to hit heroics again and see if I can put together a haste/mastery set to better test.

What are the two best Cat DPS trinkets available pre T11?
Rawr seems to be buggy and doesn't calculate proc rates at all or incorrectly.
What trinkets do you use, what trinkets are the best?

By tue of this coming week I can obtain 4p Bonus due to a PvP boss pant drop. I have BiS Pants already. Wondering if Valor points would be best spent on another ring/Relic for more Str or is the 4p better even though the set pants are kinda meh.

Edit: Prob obvious if the 4p is a 3% dps increase, that is better than a little more str.

I don't think this bug is extremely well known right now, but it was briefly mentioned in another thread. Placing one talent point in pyromaniac will give you 5% haste all the time, regardless of what dots you have spread. (Easy to test with portal spells)

Additionally, as beelz just mentioned in the fire thread, it will give an additional 5% haste if you DO have multiple dots spread. It is always better to have 1/2 points in pyromaniac rather than 2/2 until this bug is fixed.