Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1484

Grizzlyone · 01/04/11, 8:55 AM

Okay, so in order to bring my gear score to a level where I can accomplish Heroics, I crafted pieces of the Bloodied Plate set for my Ret Pally. My question is; Is there a trade off for resilience to DPS? For example, could I expect to see a reduction of 100 DPS per 100 Resilience or some manageble formula that I can generate a thumbrule and use quickly?

Also, before you all flamespray, I know I should equip all PVE gear, but the PUG Heroics aren't faceroll anymore, so I suffer a little. Also, bad luck with drops and rolls.

Thanks,
Grizzlyone

warlockone · 01/04/11, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by FlyingDonkey

2 things I'd like to have your view on:

- The debate on haste seems kinda pointless to me for two reasons: first as destruction lock, haste is the less efficient stat accoding to simulationcraft (for high gear), and thus should be reforged as much as possible. Second, because now DOTs must be refreshed while we had to let them "fall" before. Sure, on raid situation, you'll have to switch target, thus reaching some cap and having a few more ticks would help, but that also means losing on other, more valuable, stats.

- The trinket situation. It's tricky. I don't get why blizzard keeps on having different hidden ICD, it is VERY annoying. Anyway, I see Gale of Shadows (no icd) and Theralion's Mirror (100s icd, 10% proc) are BiS for us. But how can Gale of Shadows can be superior to Darkmoon Card: Volcano (45s icd, 30%)? The main stat of Volcano is superior to Gale and the proc too. Gale gives you 340sp, while Volcano gives you (1600 Intel x ~24% uptime =) 384 intel (averaged of course).
I do not consider the fire damage on Volcano because it seems low to me (0.9-1.5k damage every 50s is low even with our mastery). Anyway, it proves my point further.

Thanks for reading.

Forgive me if i have misread, i was under the impression from the first post that mastery is our worst stat until 50% haste? I am unsure if the above reference refer's to full BIS slot gear, thus gaining 50% from elsewhere.

Cornwolf · 01/04/11, 11:08 AM

Hi All,

Just wanted to say a massive thanks for this post. I have mainly been a Feral Druid through and through and mainly a tank but the guild is filling up with tanks and wanted to try something new. I haven't really ventured out of Feral but thought I would give it ago. This post has given me a lot of clarification and a better talent spec which I will be trying very soon.

Many Thanks

Nizamon · 01/04/11, 11:34 AM

I just checked in game, and it appears that after this morning's rolling restarts, PvE caster weapons have had their damage nerfed. The 346 blues are now all 47dps, and the 359 epics are 53 dps. PvP weapons remain at 219 dps.

ChaosPhoenix · 01/04/11, 11:44 AM

This a pretty basic and somewhat useless question. I've been a resto shaman some years ago and our resto shamans are complaining about the class atm. I have serveral questions and thats something you can't ask in other boards.

Is there a problem with resto shamans mechanics?
How to heal a single target in a heavy damage phase?
How to heal the raid in AoE phases?

Thanks for your time, if you can help me. I just need a push into the right direction.

sirtyface · 01/04/11, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Nizamon

I just checked in game, and it appears that after this morning's rolling restarts, PvE caster weapons have had their damage nerfed. The 346 blues are now all 47dps, and the 359 epics are 53 dps. PvP weapons remain at 219 dps.

And yet this did nothing to solve the problem. BiS pre-raid with caster MH, FT/FT is still simming about 1400 dps above agi MH, WF/FT. So they managed to nerf it by about 300 dps.

[EDIT] A little side-note from my experimentation over the last little bit with the sim. If you are going caster MH, FT/FT it is most beneficial to completely forget about expertise and stack those points in mastery instead. Also, the FT glyph replaces the SW one in FT/FT setups.

arindel · 01/04/11, 12:42 PM

Ok i may be dumb here but im trying to figure out why the affdrain profile uses 1 point in dark arts in the talent tree, as, as far as i can tell, its using lash of pain glyph and summon succubus, while that talent (looking at the tooltip) does not benefit the succu, only the felhunter.

I noticed the demonsoul felhunter is in the profile also though, so im wondering if its supposed to be summoned at some point in a fight (execute phase) and that's why the talent is there but i dont see anything summoning it, sorry if this is complete nonsence but i cant get my head around it

Vakic · 01/04/11, 1:10 PM

Originally Posted by arindel

Ok i may be dumb here but im trying to figure out why the affdrain profile uses 1 point in dark arts in the talent tree, as, as far as i can tell, its using lash of pain glyph and summon succubus, while that talent (looking at the tooltip) does not benefit the succu, only the felhunter.0

This has been discussed on 2 separate posts already, read the previous posts before posting and your questions will be answered by reading, not repeating questions.

nitrax · 01/04/11, 1:19 PM

Any opinions on just capping haste at like 650 in the optimizer to force more mastery out, or will that start skewing stats incorrectly.

Neuromaster · 01/04/11, 1:24 PM

Why do most frost guides I've read recommend holding a brain freeze FFB until FoF is active? The wording of the FoF talent is specific to ice lance & deep freeze. Is FFB also being affected without being mentioned in the talent, or did something change?

Hugrim · 01/04/11, 1:50 PM

FFB profits from FoF, when Brain Freeze is procced for you.

Brain Freeze - Spell - World of Warcraft "When Frostfire Bolt is instant, it can benefit from Fingers of Frost. "

Also its my understanding, that you want to hold one charge of FoF for Brain Freeze (with the exception when your Frostfire Orb is active).

Kuroiryu · 01/04/11, 2:25 PM

Thanks Aldriana.You're like our rogue mother reassuring her crying children saying, "There there. It will be okay."

kryst · 01/04/11, 2:39 PM

For Fire, is it worth getting 4 pieces of T11? I haven't really found an answer to this question, so that means it's either painfully obvious or no one knows yet.

greatzar · 01/04/11, 3:21 PM

Originally Posted by Lucai

The duration of living bomb does increase from ~10.67 to ~13.33 sec when you cross the 12.5% haste threshold which not only increases your dpm (not having to cast living bomb as often) but also (and more importantly) saves you gcd's which you can then spend on fireball/scorch.

Well, that saves you exactly one gcd for every for living bombs (42+ seconds). And you pay the price of one living bomb explosion for that gcd.
I still can't see, why such a minor gain considered important enough to reach first haste cap. Yes, i know, with current bugs and raid buffs this cap is easily reachable by anyone. I just don't think it's a "real" cap, I just don't see any significant change upon reaching it. You know, like "can cast 3 ab instead of 4, until buff from 2t10 expires" or "never ever miss with spells". Just 1.25 dpm increase for one spell and one free gcd once every 42 seconds (which vanishes then your haste goes further up).

XhaneThePaladin · 01/04/11, 4:05 PM

I have searched a few days now for a BiS protection gear list for entry level raid gear in Cataclysm, maybe it is too early, but all I am finding is 3.3 BiS lists from WotLK. If you guys here could cook one up that would be great. I am new here, but I have checked through most of the forums and had my cousin help out a bit (He's more experienced with this site) and we couldn't find anything. I have read up on most of the stat changes, reforging, and gems, but it would be very helpful and cool if you guys could throw up (possibly in a different thread, as I said I am new and cannot create a thread yet) a BiS Prot Pally gear list (Possibly including proper reforging, gems, and any of the crafted gear such as the ilvl 359 engineering goggles) that would be awesome. Again sorry if I am violating any rules, I read through them pretty well, not sure if this might qualify as me asking for hand-holding .-. Thanks