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Old 01/05/11, 2:35 PM   #22321
Damoon
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Quel'dorei
Originally Posted by dres View Post
If you took the 352 gloves already, it would be better to take another piece into 1 of your non epic slot for the 2 pcs bonus, +70 agility is huge, and they also have higher base agility than 346 blues.
Yeah, I got the 365 pvp gloves from Bastion Hold so picked up the 352 shoulders since I will not be able to exchange those until I get a token drop. The 70 Agility bonus is awsome. One thing I noticed is that I dont think wowprogress.com takes into account pvp items, so my gear score is way down from others. I am grouped with hunters in 346 with some greens, and my average item level is 352. Kind of annoying when you are trying to compair how you are geared with other hunters on your realm or elswhere.

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Old 01/05/11, 2:44 PM   #22322
Stodragon
Glass Joe
 
Human Paladin
 
Kilrogg
I'm pretty sure Shard will be BiS. No one has had the chance to test it out though.

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Old 01/05/11, 2:48 PM   #22323
Littlestewie
 
Gnome Mage
 
Eitrigg
Meta Gem

Is there a concensus on what meta gem is best to use at the moment. I know blizzard has stated they plan to revert the requirements for the Chaotic Shadowspirit Diamond but in the meantime is it better to gem in such a way to activate this meta or just use the Ember Shadowspirit Diamond.

Thanks!

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Old 01/05/11, 3:26 PM   #22324
Sparty
Piston Honda
 
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Human Paladin
 
Stormrage
Originally Posted by -Abakus- View Post
Has anyone given any thought to using the Ember Skyflare Diamond rather than the Ember Shadowspirit Diamond?
If you are concerned about mana, you should be using Insightful Earthsiege.

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Old 01/05/11, 3:51 PM   #22325
Plea
Don Flamenco
 
Undead Mage
 
Twisting Nether (EU)
No idea, it was simply oneshotting me. Oddly enough, last week it was working for me but not for the other mage.

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Old 01/05/11, 4:07 PM   #22326
Jacekill
 
Human Mage
 
Gorgonnash
Heroics

I was wondering what would be the best cata heroic to get better gear. It takes around an hour to find a random heroic for the groupp to give up in 10 mins. What is the most efficiant and fastest way to get good gear to start raiding.

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Old 01/05/11, 4:20 PM   #22327
Comohawk
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Velen
Been playing around with arms a bit and have been playing around with berserker stance. have not had much time to hit a dummy or run numbers but here is my idea! there is no bonus to just stay in battle stance other than rend/overpower. Why do most stay in just battle stance than? really we need ms to get up lamb of slaughter for overpower. rotation would look something like charge > rend > smash > berserker > mortal > battle > overpower > zerker > mortal > battle > overpower > rend and so on, heroic strike is used when rage and same with slam. at execute range you just stay in berserker stance and >smash > mortal > execute. you would need tactical mastery for this but with a spech like this... Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft . i cant see a reason why you should not abuse the extra damage from berserker stance to up overall dps. i could be missing something but i don't believe i am.

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Old 01/05/11, 4:22 PM   #22328
okaymindflay
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warrior
 
Arthas
I believe that Cauterize can work to save you on Atramedes because when you get one shot from your sound bar filling, your sound empties and you can Iceblock the Cauterize and continue the fight. This happened to me last night.

Whether it was solely because of Cauterize or a combination of the talent and the gongs I'm trying to verify.

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Old 01/05/11, 4:34 PM   #22329
barukas
Banned
 
Gnome Rogue
 
Silvermoon (EU)
Is the pvp dagger (vicious gladiators shanker) better than steelbender's masterpiece? for pve terms

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Old 01/05/11, 4:47 PM   #22330
Excalin
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Draenei Hunter
 
Proudmoore
Lichloathe since you are able to do a lot of simulation work are you familiar with Factorial Design Experiments? I would be interested in seeing an ANOVA showing the interaction of Dodge, Parry, Mastery. and Hit/Expertise in a Full 2^4 design.

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Old 01/05/11, 4:47 PM   #22331
passislisk
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Draenei Shaman
 
Dragonblight
I am a little confused about a couple things right now:

1) What meta are enhance shamans using? The ideal stats (chaotic) requires more blue gems than red gems, which seems like an absurd drop in gem efficiency. Does the ideal meta change for jewelcrafters? (Who would use +67 agi gems which are red x3, meaning you'd need 4 pure blue gems to activate meta)

2) Is there a list of trinket prioritization for BiS lists?

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Old 01/05/11, 5:15 PM   #22332
Aeith
 
Goblin Mage
 
Mok'Nathal
PvP set bonuses viable over PvE?

I have question regarding whether it is viable to use PvP gear strickly for the set bonuses over our current T11 raid gear. You can check out my current gearing choices here but I'm attempting to wear PvP Hat, Shoulders, Pants, Gloves currently. I don't have my hit trinket on but it's [Stump of Time]. That and a hit ring i'm at 0.38% miss chance. DPS wise I can say I'm usually near the top of the meters I'll have to ask my guild what log sit they are using I'm not sure...so this at least seems to work out ok.

Currently PvP gear set bonuses award the following:

(2) +400 Resilience rating (worthless)
(2) +70 Intellect
(4) +5% increase to damage done by Arcane Blast, Fireball, Frostbolt, Scorch, and Frostfire Bolt spells.
(4) +180 Intellect

So ignoring the resilience there we still have an extra 250 intellect +5% damage increase to Fireball and Scorch.

Now is this alone worth wearing the PvP gear over PvE gear? There is still 1228 Resilience Rating on just those 4 piece of gear that is completely worthless in a raid setting. In my lowly opinion I think the bonuses make up for the 2% less crit and 3% lower haste. I'm curious how the mage community feels using PvP gear for set bonuses over our awful T11 set bonuses.

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Old 01/05/11, 7:58 PM   #22333
dafirus
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Dauragon
Human Rogue
 
Nazgrel
Talking about fast or slow off hand, I was chatting with a friend and he told me that if the mastery of combat is not good is best to use slow-oh because it would benefit the skills rather than mastery. I keep using fast OH. What is the opinion of you? Anybody here found the difference in dps?

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Old 01/05/11, 8:35 PM   #22334
Alfador
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Emerald Dream
Originally Posted by dafirus View Post
Talking about fast or slow off hand, I was chatting with a friend and he told me that if the mastery of combat is not good is best to use slow-oh because it would benefit the skills rather than mastery. I keep using fast OH. What is the opinion of you? Anybody here found the difference in dps?
As I recall, Main Gauche is normalized (weapon speed matters little), and combat potency is still quite valuable, so it is still a bad idea to use a slow offhand.

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Old 01/05/11, 9:58 PM   #22335
Vespasian
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Draenei Shaman
 
Frostmourne
Returning to the game, I continue to be astounded by the quality and consistentancy of the Enh theorycrafting community. Thank you all for your work.

A question; will this guide eventually prescribe a BiS set up for gear, talents, rotation and glyphs (as existed in various forms during WotLK) that achieves maximum DPS according to Enhsim (under set conditions)? I note that the sim is undergoing significant changes at a steady pace at the moment, and that a reliable BiS listing accordnig to Enh sim would likely be some versions away.


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