Hey guys I'v recently gone 2h spec but im completely lost when it comes to the rotation, I have a decent weapon/gear and I will have other 2H DKs higher in the dps/dmg done meters than me. I obviously want to be top of dmg/dps meters but atm its just not happening so please advise me.

I currently get around 3k - 3.2-3.3k dps 25man, DW i used to do 6k.

The DKs higher than me do around 4k 2H dps with worse gear and they say they are using a simular rotation to me yet they are miles ahead in dps/dmg all the time.

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Current rotation:
PS -> IT -> BS -> BS -> SS -> UB
SS -> SS -> SS -> DC

I would like a single target(boss) rotation and a trash rotation if possible.

Thanks in advance

Maybe this is no much dmg but i think doing SR just after mangle at the begining of the fight during your first rotation give you some extra dps

1.- Mangle
2.- SR
3.- Rake
4.- Shred until 5 CP
5.- Rip

and then a normal rotation

Mangle, rake, shred until 5 CP, SR, Mangle, rake, shred until 5 CP, Rip and repeat... always having mangle and rake debuffs up and Berserk and TF in CD

I would like to know your opinion about this way of doing dps at the beginning of a boss fight

Thnx

for the best dps output as a elemental shaman should i go for
glyph Lightning bolt,
glyph Flame tongue,
glyph Flame Shock,

or
glyph Lightning bolt,
glyph flametounge,
glyph Flame Shock,
?

thx

I'm not 100% sure this is the correct thread to post my suggestion. But starting a new thread will certainly get my head cut off. And this thread has moved to discussing the future of different talent trees for pve dps.

The problem is that rogue's pve dps is too low. As stated by Ghostcrawler, Blizzard would like to increase rogue pve dps. But they feel they can't as rogues already do too much burst damage in pvp. So the question is: how do we improve longterm pve dps, without increasing burst dps and without increasing dps in pvp. I think one answer is to let a rogue's raid dps depend on the fact that he is in a raid. Or in a party. HAT tries to do this, but the result is too unpredictable, and too bursty, to be fun to play. Or to uncontrollable to not let HAT go through the roof.

I have another suggestion.
How about a talent like this:

New talent: Cooperation
Rank: 0/5
Requires 45 points in Combat Talents

The beneficial effects from buffs and debuffs by your party and raid members will be increased by 10/20/30/40/50%.

What does this mean ? Suppose you have a palading who gives you Greater Blessing of Might. That gives you normally 550 attack power. Now if you have 5/5 Cooperation, then GBoM will give you 825 attackpower (= 550 * 150%). Suppose a warrior put 5x Sunder Armor on a boss. That normally reduces armor by 3925. With 5/5 Cooperation, a rogue would experience a 5837 armor reduction. Etc. You get the picture.

If I remember correctly, in TBC my rogue got about a 75% dps increase when fully raid buffed. Some of that was because of food and flask, but the majority of that extra damage was because of raid buffs and boss debuffs. Suppose the raid buffs were giving me a 50% dps increase. With 5/5 Cooperation that would be a 75% dps increase. Suppose my rogue does 1500 dps solo. With raid buffs and food/flask, that would be 2625 dps. With 5/5 Cooperation that would increase to 3000 dps. An overall 14% increase in raid dps.

If this is deemed too much, or not enough, the exact results can be tweaked by making the talent do a few less or more % of buff increase. Some of these buffs are flat increases (like BoMight). Therefor I think the increase in dps will not scale at full speed with gear. This talent can give a nice dps increase, but won't grow exponentially and piss off other classes.

Why do I like this suggestion ? It increases rogues's raid pve dps, without increasing pvp dps. In arenas you have a limited number of party members (especially in 2vs2 or 3vs3), so this new talent in the Combat tree would not suddenly make Combat the new pvp spec. There's no reason for pvp players to complain about this new talent. In solo pve, we have no party buffs, so the challenge of solo content would not be impacted. Same for solo "world pvp" (aka ganking). In battlegrounds, people hardly buff each other, so I don't think it will impact BGs. And remember, this new talent should be very deep into the Combat talent tree. And as long as Combat is not a viable pvp spec, the new increased pve dps should not bother any pvp players.

The OP says as much. All rating stats (like crit rating, haste rating, etc.) cost 1 point, the same as spirit.

My point of "imp demo shout is useless" is that World of Warcraft is turning into a casual game, not something for hardcore players. We won't see Ulduar nowhere near like SSC/TK in TBC at the start, if you ask me.

They did it with Naxxramas and they're definitely going to do it with Ulduar.
All you need in raids is to max out the DPS, nothing else, really..

I could, just maybe, drop 2 points to imp demo shout if it was really required, but not 5.

Debatable.

hm..i'm just using a DW spec.. what presence is the best for bossfights? Doing about 5k dps with unholy

Unfortunately, Frostraiding currently is not as good as it was towards the beginning of BC. They have taken out the "Binary"(unpartially resistable) frostbolts and the extra 3% "ghost" hit, its just not as competetive or buffed as Fire, Arcane or Fire/Frost.
I was just invited into a 25m Nax because I guess they were short on decurses and mages, but I used the the phrase "I got 2500dps on a dummy over 1min", which I did, that got me the invite, and I am also glad the raid leader did not ask specs, but he did ask spellpower which i replied 1400.
Being in Nax(25m or 10m) for the 1st time since BC(we cleared it every week after 2.6), and even as this is the "kara" of LK, I was kind of disappointed how unchanged the instance was, I mean did it really take that much effort in changing it from level 60 to level 80 content? That's beside the point, since being PVE frost I've noticed I was able to survive alot better especcially on Thad, Sapph, and KT. This is where frost shines as you all know.

On Thad I got a 14th on dmg, On Sapph I got 11th on dmg and even outdmged about 3 of the people, (who had survived the whole fight and, might I add had, had mostly nax epics) and I did almost 50% of the decursing (#1) in the raid with 30 decurses :|. while I had outdmged the top mage in the raid ( who had #2 dmg on thad and decursed only a mere 3 times during the sapph fight). And the last mage i remember had also cursed only about 8 times. Sorry forgetting the #dps but i didnt want to deviate so much from the report from my errors in remembering. KT for some reason I cannot recall at all except that I won the crit cloak, and that last mage I was talking about got really mad.

And a little about myself... I turned 80 2 days prior to the raid, I still have 2 greens on , im stacking self buffed 400 haste and have 1400 sp, 11% crit(might have changed from the new cloak). Im undercapped, about 4-5% currently. I did use Brain Freeze. Cd's. WE etc...everytime.
I havent even done a lvl 80 heroic or any other LK 10mans or 25mans and I need to start, as that I will try to find hit,sp,haste, crit upgrades (in that order). Oh ya... gotta putin my FrB glyph in place of the Mana Gem one, and the Molten armor Glyph

Will I keep Pveing as Frost? Yes Ive been Frost probably since ive started my mage about 3.5 years ago.....I leveled Frost, and once 70 I eventually respecced to the PVE frost( water ele and meditation..it was honestly....too much mana). Then, shortly before I got my T5, I specced to Arcane/Frost (40/0/21) which included rotations of 3 (the original) Arc Blasts ,3 Frostbolts, and had cold snap and icy veins and 225% frostcrits. Before the time of dummies was the time of DR. BOOM. I was playing around with just spamming Arc Blast... and omg 3k dps... wow.. I did this on the last day of BC talents on trash in THE EYE (with raid buffs) 4K DPS!
Honestly, the best spec I have ever played (having my T5) before Lich King talents since they had destroyed Arcane/Frost 40/0/21 by:
1. Changing Arcane Blast drastically.... into crap( the 1st change, not the 2nd one)
2. Moving the talent in arcane 'Spell Power" to a tier 10 talent (You really cant get it as frost...anymore)
3. Changing the ghost hit or unpartially resistable frostbolts (I forget if they had, yet but they will anyways).
4. Nerfing 2/5 T5 Tirisfall Regalia ( from +20% on Arc Blast ----->>> to a mere +5%). Very angry about this decision, I respecced to full Pve Arcane ( my guild was on Illidan at that time) eh it was ok... not as good as Arc/Frost though.... had lots of haste(I had no haste on my arcane/frost gear set.. it was all crit which i switched to haste as full arcane and that Netherwind presense talent was pretty nice too) I remember..and relatively mana inefficient(I used the 1 arc blast 1 Arcbar , missles on buff rotation) This was a drastic change since my dps over 1 minute had literally went downhill from 1800(arc frost) to 1600(arcane)

Does Frost need to be Fixxed? yes I'm really not gonan go into much detail about this... it just needs a serious drastic change. Perma W/E? maybe.... Brain Freeze change...yep Deep Freeze for PVE..ohya.. Scaling.... HELL YES

And Lastly... NAMING YOUR WATER ELEMENTAL?!!! FUCK YA

my question is about what stat to stack next. i am hit and exp capped. im just unsire what to gem for next. agi will give me crit and ap but would it be better to go straight crit or straight ap? is haste still a good idea? any help is appreciated.

Does anyone know which are the best weapons for a Warlock? Right now I am wearing Haunting Call, but I would like to know if, for example, Life and Death is better?

Thanks.

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