Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1535

RebornTN · 01/15/11, 7:10 PM

Originally Posted by Kellendros

I was under the impression that even if mastery becomes a desirable stat, it would still be far away from STR, leaving both t11 tank chest or the helm from Valiona as our most desirable offsets, one or another, not both of course.

But that will still depend on how it will be applied to live, we are both just speculating. But as it is at this momment, redcape numbers still show STR much more intresting than mastery.

Items

* Daybreaker Helm stats have been reallocated, lowering Strength and increasing parry rating.

Daybreaker helm is losing some of its Strength, depending on the value i do not believe it will remain better than DPS helms.

Kuroiryu · 01/15/11, 7:23 PM

Concerning energy capping during AR, and future energy capping potential if haste gets high enough, suppose they gave us an ability or glyph that consumes extra energy when we're energy capped to increase its damage, similar to that ability druids have?

Just a thought.

Neldarie · 01/15/11, 7:44 PM

What about 4piece + Maloriak tankhelm with that massive mastery if Inquisition will work with Hand of Light?

strongmindmoya · 01/15/11, 8:04 PM

Ok so in wotlk i wasnt too worried about my rogue i was having fun, but now that cata has come out, i want to get my rogue squared away, so basically i need to know the following info:

1.PvP
a. Hit chance (where should it be)
b. Spec (Mut,Sub,Combat)
c. What should i reforge on
2.PvE
a. Hit chance (where should it be)
b. Spec (Mut,Sub,combat)
c. Reforging

so im really just want to start from scratch as far as spec and the new content.

Bluerelic · 01/15/11, 9:53 PM

Although not set in stone, I believe the Engineer goggles will pull ahead as our BiS helm using the 4pc T11 from the remaining slots. If this is the case the goggles + synapse springs would overtake any other available profession.

trizzinc · 01/15/11, 10:05 PM

Question about Enhancement raw stats, I'm sitting at 21.44% Hit.
Is this hard-overkill? I reforge any crit/haste to hit if I can't forge it to mastery.
I couldn't really find anything about this.

Mewee · 01/15/11, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Neldarie

What about 4piece + Maloriak tankhelm with that massive mastery if Inquisition will work with Hand of Light?

The tanking helm from Maloriak has significantly less strength than our tier headpiece, which makes it pretty unattractive in a BiS setup.

Dragon Bone Warhelm 372
Str: 293
Ratings: 460 ( mast: 325 exp: 125)
Socket bonus: -

Reinforced Sapphirum Helm 372
Str: 325
Ratings: 456 ( haste: 257 exp: 197)
Socket bonus: 30 str - yellow socket

With sockets accounted for, our tier helm has 42 more strength, and 16 more rating points. No contest. However it will very likely be worth using over the 359 tier helm, so if you have the heroic tanking helm and the normal tier head, then I'd probably do it. But then again, if you have access to maloriak helm, you probably also have access to Halfus 372 shoulder, which is a better overall strength gain.

Neldarie · 01/15/11, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by Mewee

The tanking helm from Maloriak has significantly less strength than our tier headpiece, which makes it pretty unattractive in a BiS setup.

Dragon Bone Warhelm 372
Str: 293
Ratings: 460 ( mast: 325 exp: 125)
Socket bonus: -

Reinforced Sapphirum Helm 372
Str: 325
Ratings: 456 ( haste: 257 exp: 197)
Socket bonus: 30 str - yellow socket

With sockets accounted for, our tier helm has 42 more strength, and 16 more rating points. No contest. However it will very likely be worth using over the 359 tier helm, so if you have the heroic tanking helm and the normal tier head, then I'd probably do it. But then again, if you have access to maloriak helm, you probably also have access to Halfus 372 shoulder, which is a better overall strength gain.

Ok, question was abit deeper than I intended it to be:

Thinking about gear setup: tier helm + relic + chim boots + chim trinket is already whopping 803 (197+72+171+363=803) expertise and even with forging down its pretty impossible to get down to 391rating (human+sword/mace), guessing the answer would be to cap xp and glyph exo-cs?

connie87 · 01/15/11, 11:59 PM

It would be really helpful and appreciated if there were some up to date info on Shaman healing under the 'new' conditions. so much that is here is outdated and no longer valid. Tips on rotation, heals to use, ways to use them, gear, enchants, etc. Thanks so much!

Navir · 01/16/11, 12:09 AM

I'm curious how trinkets are currently rated - I know EH is not defined as of yet, but how good is adding armor on a DK tank? I have the [Bedrock Talisman] from valor pts, and wonder how it's compared to the other two tanking trinkets from raid bosses(from only normal mode available to me right now).

Any input appreciated, my thoughts have been back and forth.

Totogalore · 01/16/11, 12:28 AM

Hey i would like to know the crit cap and hit cap for feral kitty's?(now I know they implemented an ingame percentages on your character tab but I want a specific number).

Tabah · 01/16/11, 1:20 AM

okay guys im Tabah, a tauren warrior on the Realm Cho'Gall and aparenlty im too squishy? now, ive read this EJ thread on prot warrios ever since it was released, and i am following the stat priorities as directed by one of the replyers, (Mastery>parry>dodge), but aparently according to m Ex-guild and my current guld im way too squishy for the raids, i am in mostly 346 the rest 359 gear, what do i do? E-mail me at Sgt.scramble@yahoo.ca

Syncness · 01/16/11, 1:50 AM

Originally Posted by Dogsoup

Quick question that I haven't found answered already. Does the buff from Fluid Death and Tia's Grace work at the same time, or will the higher one cancel the other out?

They give you completely different buffs, so they will co-exist, meaning you will gain the benefit of both.

Something like dual-wield Hurricane where only 1 buff is applied will not "stack".

Inverse · 01/16/11, 2:26 AM

Probably a dumb question, but I haven't played since late October. With stat scaling dropping off so harshly as we level, as well as haste being slightly behind crit, CS is nowhere near 3 seconds. Is the ret rotation now CS > filler x2 or CS > filler? Thanks.

Adhal · 01/16/11, 2:45 AM

Originally Posted by gtmeteor

I was writing a deep post about gear list and got screwed by not logging in ><
Anyways, what appears to be post 4.0.6 preHC bis list for Engineers is:

H: [Reinforced Bio-Optic Killshades] Mastery+Hit
N: [Buc-Zakai Choker]
S: [Reinforced Sapphirium Pauldrons]
B: [Floating Web]
C: [Reinforced Sapphirium Battleplate]
W: [Electron Inductor Coils]
H: [Reinforced Sapphirium Gauntlets]
W: [Belt of the Ferocious Wolf]
L: [Reinforced Sapphirium Legplates]
F: [Massacre Treads] Expertise > Haste
R: [Band of Bees]
R: [Blauvelt's Family Crest]
T: [Heart of Rage] Expertise > Haste
T: [Crushing Weight]
W: [Reclaimed Ashkandi, Greatsword of the Brotherhood]
R: [Relic of Aggramar]

Non-engineers replace [Reinforced Bio-Optic Killshades] with [Reinforced Sapphirium Helmet] and you'll have to play with reforge a bit to get rid of the Expertise and get more hit.

@Neldarie - just use [Helm of Maddening Whispers] instead of tier helm. SoT glyph is just THAT good.

EDIT: screw WoWhead for not putting Heroic tag on Halfus tanking bracers ><

Haven't really crunched and compared the gear in your list to much, but off of first glance Crushing Weight should be replaced with DMC: Hurricane in that list.