Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1538

Oricha · 01/16/11, 6:02 PM

I'm not sure if this is the wrong place for this topic or not, or if it has already been discussed,
but I was wondering how much of an EP increase the change to Unheeded Warning in 4.0.6 will be.
(It is now +680 weapon damage for 10 seconds). I have one of the trinkets on my PTR character if you would like me to test this.
I would think this change makes it a great combat trinket now, if not also fairly competitive for assassination.

SpecialFavorite · 01/16/11, 6:04 PM

I am sort of new to these forums so I don't know how these things work. I am trying to figure out how to play my PVE Arms warrior better. This thread is over 200 posts long and it is taking forever to catch up on all the reading. However, I noticed the first posts are from mid October and I was wondering if there is a point at which some of those old posts are no longer relative and can be removed? It would make reading this so much easier. I am certain some of those old posts are pointless now because between Oct and now, there have been so many hot fixes and changes that some of the discussions aren't relative.

Going along with that, how much discussion is needed before an official "Arms Warrior Compendium" can be posted giving recommended talents, glyphs, stats, rotation, etc? I use the Holy Priest Compendium for my main and it is very helpful. It also gets updated when they decide something should be changed. How long until the Arms warriors get one so I don't have to scan 8 pages of posts to just get confused on if I should prioritize MS or Execute?

My final question, which I hope is fairly simple is that since I just recently hit 85 and am starting to gear up in heroics, what should my stat priority be? The way I can figure it out right now is Strength > Mastery > Crit > Haste? And of course I will want to be Hit and Expertise capped.

Vorapsak · 01/16/11, 6:51 PM

I guess that Mastery will be more important, but will the patch 4.0.6 will affect stats priority for Frost ?

Will it changes something for Fire ?

XElrichX · 01/16/11, 6:55 PM

I am reposting this from the BIS thread because I think it is viable to talk about it in both. I am only going to state what is viable for fury though.

Unheeded Warning on the PTR. The proc changed to "Your melee attacks have a chance to increase your weapon damage by 680 for 10 seconds". How does this effect our BIS trinkets if at all? With an uptime of 10 seconds on the proc the ICD would be 50 seconds.

I am not really a numbers type person but this would effect (for Fury):

-Autoattacks
-Raging Blow (scales with Mastery for RB)
-Colossus Smash
-Slam
-Whirlwind (situational)
-Deep Wounds (Would the increased weapon damage stick and roll through as long as you keep the DOT up? Not sure the interaction with Deep Wounds and weapon damage increase. Is it anything like tricks and lock dots used to be, etc?)

(I am probably missing some but HS and BT are based off of AP)

There any way to theorycraft how this trinket will match up against the others (including heroic trinkets) for purpose of BIS gearing?

Quickstream · 01/16/11, 7:49 PM

Hi hate to bother you but would you mind sending me a screenshot of your wow ui and any macros you use in your destruction rotation (minus the pet one every hunter/warlock should be using something similar)

It really would help iv got most everything down quite well been a lock for a long time but right now its my rotation thats got me stuck for some reason.

if your worried about your forum stats by private messege would be good ofc thats if you dont mind

Brewha · 01/16/11, 8:43 PM

Hello I am a noob to this ej site I always read it but dont always understand...U guys are so smart everything goes over my head...My dodge is 12.44% My Parry is 13.61 % and My Block Is 43.08 % ....My Expertise is 23 and My Hit rating is 5 % ...I have
139k hit points ....Don't know what I should do as far as reforging? Can someone help?It was clear cut before with defense rating...now things are abit tricking ..still trying to get use to cataclysm...Any input will help!!

Brewha · 01/16/11, 8:43 PM

Hello I am a noob to this ej site I always read it but dont always understand...U guys are so smart everything goes over my head...My dodge is 12.44% My Parry is 13.61 % and My Block Is 43.08 % ....My Expertise is 23 and My Hit rating is 5 % ...I have
139k hit points ....Don't know what I should do as far as reforging? Can someone help?It was clear cut before with defense rating...now things are abit tricking ..still trying to get use to cataclysm...Any input will help!!

pon1435@yahoo.com · 01/16/11, 10:20 PM

What should I reforge for mastery? Is mastery really worth it? How much mastery should I have?

TBS098 · 01/16/11, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by grukthar

Hello,

I've been going back over gem/enchants and gear as I prepare to start heroic modes next week. Upon looking over meta gems I noticed that there might be another option in that slot for us. I've always gone with [Austere Shadowspirit Diamond] like I assume most others have. Yesterday the [Effulgent Shadowspirit Diamond] caught my eye and I started to wonder if anyone else in the community has considered this. The 2% armor meta is only a mere 300-500 armor tops (not sure how multipliers work with toughness and blood presence).

If there has already been a discussion about this I didn't see one. Was it just never considered because the amount of physical damage we take outweight the 2% magic reduction?

Considering our armor is already lower than the other plate tanks I would assume that it's in our best interest to continue using [Austere Shadowspirit Diamond].

Odeen · 01/16/11, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by mmdollar

A nice idea, but what about getting the improved fel armor?

The points for that would have to come out of improved corruption, which looks like it would be a slight dps loss. However, that would probably change as haste gets higher, as I'm looking at intro level raiding gear.

mmdollar · 01/16/11, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by Odeen

The points for that would have to come out of improved corruption, which looks like it would be a slight dps loss. However, that would probably change as haste gets higher, as I'm looking at intro level raiding gear.

Here is my idea: WoW Talent Calculator - Sigrie.

Bigglesworth · 01/16/11, 11:41 PM

stupid question, but can anyone give me like an actual talent caculator spec? i have looked through all the forums for balance and cant find an actual spec anywhere. there is an outline that describes basic things and what they do, but no where is there an actual given spec, i am trying to go balance to test it and cant find a real spec for the life of me.

Sot · 01/16/11, 11:49 PM

- Using AMS on Chogall during phase 1 is a bad idea. If you get MC'd and still have AMS you could potentially make yourself unable to get knocked out of the MC and cause a stack on Chogall.

- Wondering if the way I'm reforging is correct for my current gear set: Varókk @ Antonidas - Game - World of Warcraft

Bloodyivo · 01/17/11, 2:22 AM

Lets see the overall things:

Nerfs:
- 10% dmg nerf on DC.
- 20% dmg on pet
- 5% str overall

Buffs:

1) New mastery seems very nice it gives buff dmg to DC , DnD and SS
2) Runce coruption procs STACKS !!!
3) New meta gem
4) IN MY oppinion since the Scarlet feaver will proc from PS and we have the 2 points to invest in SF i think we can start using 4 Diesieses !!! wich buffs SS and BB. The bad thing is that FS and Outbreak are not spreding/prolonging the SF so we must do PS every 30sec.. may be they will fix FS and outbreak to give it.

So waht do you think about 4) ?? If everythink is as i think overall they will buff us more than nerf us (:

wsoxrule · 01/17/11, 2:36 AM

Is there a tier piece worth not getting because a boss drop item is better?