Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1556

Brahmi · 01/21/11, 8:55 AM

Hi Hamlet

dont know wheer to put that question so i will try it here.
I been watching your videos as an moonkin and resto on youtube.
In your interface you have a sort of bar on which your spells and cooldowns are running frpm lft to right based on their remeining cd. Whats the name of this addon?

Lanwa · 01/21/11, 9:06 AM

Just take a look at post #90, page 4.

ShadowCraft: Rogue spreadsheet for 4.0

First line.

Cheers

Andaras-Tanaris · 01/21/11, 9:09 AM

Originally Posted by geofferson

The bold is terrible advise. Expertise is almost as bad a crit and white hit. If you are reforging / gemming for expertise as Assassination then you are doing it wrong.

Gem for Agility
Reforge expertise and crit to Hit until spell cap (17%)
Reforge the rest of your expertise, haste and crit to mastery

So Reforge Mastery until you can't, that is if you are Spell Hit Capped.

Secondly gem selection- this depending on your hit cap of course.
META - [Relentless Earthsiege Diamond]
RED - [Delicate Inferno Ruby]
YELLOW -[Adept Ember Topaz] or [Sensei's Dream Emerald]
BLUE - [Glinting Demonseye] or [Sensei's Dream Emerald]

At what point do you pay attention to socket bonus?

MudNova · 01/21/11, 9:21 AM

Originally Posted by Slay the Awesome

Is there a certain point where the block meta is more beneficial than the armor? Or vice versa? I appologize if this has already been discussed, I have not found a definitive answer here in this thread. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Seeing what has been proven in this thread, the block meta reduces overall damage taken more than the armor one does. However some of us would prefer 2% armor because it is reliable to 'function' where block may be not, i.e. when you are stunned or taking (physical) damage that cannot be avoided.

Nonetheless, there aren't many bosses that deal with non avoidable physical damage. The only one I can think of is Magmaw (but I might be wrong

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MasterDinadan · 01/21/11, 9:24 AM

Originally Posted by Slay the Awesome

Is there a certain point where the block meta is more beneficial than the armor? Or vice versa? I appologize if this has already been discussed, I have not found a definitive answer here in this thread. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Depends on the exact levels of mastery and armor, mainly. Other stats play a role, but not a big one.
However, the block meta is superior to the armor meta in all but the most extreme circumstances. Making the armor meta better would require abnormally high armor and abnormally low mastery.

By my math, one example gives the two metas as being roughly equivalent for a warrior with 600 mastery and 35000 armor. I don't need to tell you that 600 mastery is extremely low. Anyone with a clue about tanking stat prioirities will have more mastery than this, especially if they have 35000 armor.

If you aren't sure, use a spreadsheet. If you don't want to use a spreadsheet, just pick the block meta as it is almost certainly the right choice.

sp00n · 01/21/11, 10:02 AM

Here we go:
Shadowcraft Tools - Caffeine Mod : Rogue : WoWInterface AddOns

As I've stated, the only test subject so far has been me. Let me know if something breaks. And if you have some gear/gems/enchants that isn't supported by Caffeine's UI, bad luck. I can't do anything about it.

@Iruna
The link to the web UI is even in the first post.

zork · 01/21/11, 10:03 AM

Does any of you have a list of warrior spells that are currently of the global cooldown?

Abilities that are of the cooldown and which I know of are:
- Shield Block
- Spell Reflect
- Heroic Strike
- Cleave
- Heroic Throw

Some abilities in Question:
- Raging Blow
- Charge
- Intercept
- Intervene

Are there any other?

Is there any chance to find out which abilites are on the global cooldown without trying it out ingame?

MasterDinadan · 01/21/11, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by zork

Does any of you have a list of warrior spells that are currently of the global cooldown?

Abilities that are of the cooldown and which I know of are:
- Shield Block
- Spell Reflect
- Heroic Strike
- Cleave
- Heroic Throw

Some abilities in Question:
- Raging Blow
- Charge
- Intercept
- Intervene

Are there any other?

Is there any chance to find out which abilites are on the global cooldown without trying it out ingame?

Raging Blow is on the GCD. Charge and Intercept are not. I don't think Intervene is, but I'm not positive.
You missed at least one: Berserker Rage is not on GCD, and maybe some others. I don't remember the Fury cooldown buffs having GCD but haven't played Fury in a while.

We also have the stances, which share a short cooldown, but it isn't GCD.

Desperados · 01/21/11, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Anuji

Tested Landsouls suggested 4.0.6 Crit/Mastery-Build (roughly 10% hit, 23% crit, 14 Mastery) today on Maloriak, Chimaeron, Nef and a few Conclave-HC tries.

From where do you have this information if I may ask?

Anuji · 01/21/11, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Desperados

From where do you have this information if I may ask?

Landsoul posted it in the "DPS Warrior BiS Discussion(4.0.6)-" Thread.
The stats i posted were roughly those with whom i tried it.

I am raiding, since Landsouls list, with that kind of gear, just to try out the rage-income and overall feeling of a low-hit-Build, and i must say, i have to give props to Shha.. it worked just the RNG-like way he stated it would be like.
Overall a little bit RNG, for example if you get horrible miss-streaks and got no Enrage up with Bersi-Rage on CD, but not that big of a difference dps-wise.

Can't do furthermore tests at the moment due to the fact of being arms for some progress bosses.

Divis0R · 01/21/11, 11:07 AM

I have looked around and I didn't manage to find a good post regarding a BiS gear setup with normal (non-heroic) items. Can this thread support 2 branches, one with BiS gear and one with non-heroic BiS? While many of you are in strong guilds and are tackling heroic encounters by now, some of us are not that lucky, but still try to get the best out of the class.

Thank you in advance, regardless of your decision.

hikarodesu · 01/21/11, 11:33 AM

You forgot:
-Recklessness
-Pummel
-Shield Bash
-Shield Wall
-Retaliation
-Death Wish
-Last Stand
-Taunt
-Inner Rage

Also, Heroic Throw is on the GCD.

Faveokatro · 01/21/11, 11:38 AM

Has anyone toyed with switching Naturalist to Blessing of the Grove? I ran last night with Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft to test and it seemed like a decent boost. The lack didn't seem to affect much, even tank healing Chimaeron was pretty smooth with 2.5 second HTs (after haste). Due to the lack of mana issues, Furor may be optional as well in favor of Genesis, but I do have the benefit of 2 MTTs in raid usually.

catalyst540x · 01/21/11, 11:55 AM

i also found that (i don't know how to get the item links to work) the Ember Shadowspirit Diamond works very nice if u need haste from yellow gems and the 54 int may seem small but the 2% maximum mana is really nice and. also found that if u take the Imp life tap from affliction is nice for boss fights i just have to hit it 3 times then im at full mana .

ironspants · 01/21/11, 11:56 AM

redscape, given this new numbers, whats the dps output in your spreadsheet with gearset 1, cause i think the numbers from your sheet can give us a better idea where our dps will be with 4.06 than the test on the puppets on the ptr.

cause iam afraid they are pretty much done with us on the ptr.