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Old 04/29/09, 12:33 PM   #3876
Sylene
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Ragnaros (EU)
Originally Posted by Maylander View Post
The leggings are from Leviathan hard mode


hmmm, thx, I haven't noticed it:P but you have right but I hope its not too difficult to get it

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Old 04/29/09, 2:03 PM   #3877
reesj
Banned
 
Human Warlock
 
Frostmane (EU)
Has Anyone figured out how many points in Molten Core is optimal like old Eradication for 0/40/31 and 0/41/30 builds? ATM I'm using 1/3 in it and 3/3 Demonic knowledge. I was hoping of putting 2/3 & 2/3 respectively. Any help regarding some with experience if not numbers will be appreciated also.

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Old 04/29/09, 2:17 PM   #3878
reesj
Banned
 
Human Warlock
 
Frostmane (EU)
Can I plz know Why the spec for 0/40/31 have 3/3 Molten Core and no demonic Empowerment? Isn't it better to use demonic Empowerment and 2/3 Molten core at least?

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Old 04/29/09, 3:27 PM   #3879
Seoman
Von Kaiser
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Kirin Tor
Arcane Shot and SV

Apologies if this is something very basic that I just missed somewhere - I've been BM for a long time: The Shot Rotation tab will make Arcane Shot 0 DPS with Explosive before it (and vice versa) since they share a 6 sec cooldown. Does this mean that Arcane is really not in a typical SV shot rotation, or that the spreadsheet has trouble modeling it?

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Old 04/29/09, 3:28 PM   #3880
Drison
Von Kaiser
 
Worgen Warlock
 
Icecrown
Originally Posted by reesj View Post
Has Anyone figured out how many points in Molten Core is optimal like old Eradication for 0/40/31 and 0/41/30 builds? ATM I'm using 1/3 in it and 3/3 Demonic knowledge. I was hoping of putting 2/3 & 2/3 respectively. Any help regarding some with experience if not numbers will be appreciated also.

The simcraft thread has all these answers for you. After looking at your spec you should at least drop demonic empowerment and put that point in MC.

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Old 04/29/09, 3:35 PM   #3881
Arnath
Piston Honda
 
Undead Warlock
 
Tichondrius
Demonic Empowerment isn't an especially useful talent. There is some discussion on this earlier in the thread.

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Old 04/29/09, 3:36 PM   #3882
arlen
Piston Honda
 
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Human Paladin
 
Blackhand
Arcane shot should never be used if you're Surv. Just take it off your bar.

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Old 04/29/09, 3:42 PM   #3883
Tgrable
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Laughing Skull
Just a few observations I have made and I wanted to see if they are correct.

I recently replaced a few peices of gear for the new ulduar stuff with armor pen on it.

Well normally its a pretty straight forward upgrade till last night.

The upgrade last night I basically Traded my Valor chest (which isn't optimal by any means) for one of the armor pen and haste chests.

I bascially traded 1.4% crit and my 4p bonus on the chest for about 22 strenght and 3.6% armor pen. So my question is for a blood spec is the loss of 4p t 7.5 and 1.4% crit worth the 22 strenght and 3.6% armor pen. So far it seems it has been as blood spec doesn't get RP starved since we have a problem with having enough GCD's to use all the rp we have anyways.

On a diffrent note. For blood spec is Armor pen worth more per point that crit? What im asking is will i see a dps gain or loss for trading crit for armor pen.

Anyways thanks for the answeres

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Old 04/29/09, 3:59 PM   #3884
unchewable
Glass Joe
 
Undead Mage
 
<1up>
Coilfang
mana issues

well my armory hasnt been updated in like 9 days but i think the question on what to use and when to use it is part of the fun and annoyance that is arcane. i would go so much by should i use wild magic pot or mana pot every time as i would how long is it gonna take my guild to down this boss. if your raid has a lot of replenishment and you are downing bosses fast then do as much dps as you can without going oom. problem is you are probably gonna have to keep track and see how many ab's you can do and change it each fight to do this just use a target dummy and map out from like 4 mins out then run a stop watch on bosses. It is annoying but it will give you the most dps for your mana i just wish there was a addon on that calculated how much time you have left if you kept currently dps as you are. like on my truck a distance til empty mod would be sweet calculating current mana consumption maybe manly can do it lol.

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Old 04/29/09, 4:07 PM   #3885
Asilpop
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Llane
Can you please calculate the DPS gain of using a Potion of Speed vs a Potion of Wild Magic for the different specs for me? It would be a good addition to the consumables section on page 1.

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Old 04/29/09, 4:12 PM   #3886
Rosamonde
Piston Honda
 
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Human Mage
 
Argent Dawn
Originally Posted by Seoman View Post
Apologies if this is something very basic that I just missed somewhere - I've been BM for a long time: The Shot Rotation tab will make Arcane Shot 0 DPS with Explosive before it (and vice versa) since they share a 6 sec cooldown. Does this mean that Arcane is really not in a typical SV shot rotation, or that the spreadsheet has trouble modeling it?
Arcane Shot and Explosive Shot share a cooldown, so you can't use both in your rotation.


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Old 04/29/09, 4:16 PM   #3887
mugon86
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Whisperwind
addon

What is a popular addon for combat text, i like scrolling combat text cause i can easily keep track of procs that activate, who is healing me for how much and what my damage looks like. The only issue with is that it is a screen hog. I would appreciate any suggestions on something better.

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Old 04/29/09, 4:45 PM   #3888
chinquie
Glass Joe
 
Human Warrior
 
Dunemaul (EU)
Hi i recently went arms and got a lot of ArP gear amd gems. but ive gone back to fury. but still got my Arp Gear on is Arp Gear good for fury?

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Old 04/29/09, 5:24 PM   #3889
axol
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Icecrown
Mugon,
I used to use SCT but now I use MSBT. Very easily customizable, tracks everything that SCT does and isn't a screen hog.

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Old 04/29/09, 5:24 PM   #3890
Zigazaha
Von Kaiser
 
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Orc Hunter
 
Kel'Thuzad
Originally Posted by mugon86 View Post
What is a popular addon for combat text, i like scrolling combat text cause i can easily keep track of procs that activate, who is healing me for how much and what my damage looks like. The only issue with is that it is a screen hog. I would appreciate any suggestions on something better.
Miks scrolling battle text is a really good and popular Addon for all your combat text needs.
MikScrollingBattleText - Addons - Curse
Takes a little bit of configuring but once you've got it figured out it's definitely worth it.

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Old 04/29/09, 6:13 PM   #3891
Brynmor
Von Kaiser
 
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Dwarf Shaman
 
Akama
Originally Posted by Rouncer View Post
Your friend is an idiot. Just tested. 1.6 speed weapon had a 6% spellpower coefficient while a 3.8 speed weapon had a 14.5% coefficient so yes, the change to Flametongue did indeed make it into the patch.
I suspected as much, thanks.

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Old 04/29/09, 7:53 PM   #3892
Imsety
 
Undead Warlock
 
Anub'arak
for you destro locks out there,

how much crit are you aiming for? im at 22% right now

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Old 04/29/09, 8:01 PM   #3893
Sisepeda
 
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Orc Shaman
 
Blackwing Lair
Okay, well sorry for coming off cross.

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Old 04/29/09, 8:05 PM   #3894
Xul
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
The Venture Co
Originally Posted by Vignarg View Post
@Bengal21
D&D, Howling Blast, Blood Boil, Pestilence, and Heart Strike would all ruin CC. To the best of my knowledge, unless it explictly states otherwise in the tooltip (i.e. Wandering plague), they would hit CCed targets.

@HotieDraeni
The rotation you listed seems to have an extra blood rune left over. PS>IT>SS>BS>BS>UB>DC would use it. Also, the rotation would depend on single target vs aoe.

Single Target
PS>IT>SS>BS>BS>UB>DC
SS>SS>SS>RDP
SS renewing Diseases would dictate next rotation

AoE
D&D>PS>IT>Pest>UB
SS>SS>BB>...BB?
The secon rotation is hard to say because you know have a Death Rune (from Pest) and a Blood Rune from D&D. This won't be back on track until another rotation. You could just drop out another BB, or you could grab Frenzy and use the DR there.

I think the bigger concern is 1/3 Morbidity on a build bragging about how well DC scales. Also, I'd be concerned about using D&D without Subversion. At any rate, I would ignore the "avoid ArP" on anything that uses so many physical attacks. Would it rely on ArP as much as, say, Blood? No, but ArP would still be welcome on all that BS/PS/SS you're delivering (and for BCB unless I'm mistaken).
Extremely new to DK so bear with me here. I've seen a lot of rotations posted, but my primary focus is pvp with my DK. As an Unholy (0/19/52) PvP/Arena DK is the above rotation against a single target still considered the best?

I understand that there are a lot of intagebles to take into account in PVP, but I'm looking for a straight up good rotation to learn and then improvise from there.

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Old 04/29/09, 8:28 PM   #3895
Thari
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Korgath
Shaman arenaing

Hi there guys im new to Arena and this site so im nto sure if this goes here but ive started doing more and more arenas got a 2v2 with a lock and a 3v3 with ret/lock which i find is fun with both but what im looking for is awesome shaman mods for arenas cause the raiding ones i have just dont cut it they look ugly and huge. Any ideas on what are wicked ones?

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Old 04/29/09, 9:48 PM   #3896
scourgekiller
 
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Human Death Knight
 
Cairne
20/51/0

Let me first say that I <3 the EJ forums, and that i am a first time poster here.
I have been DPS'ing as frost for months now and i love it! My current "Primary" spec is 20/51/00, and i DPS in UP.
99% of the time I top Recount in guild raids. Essentially my rotation is the same as the 6x IT rotation of the old 20/51/00, the only thing i changed is that i try to get more OB's in on the second part of the rotation.

BT>IT>BS>OB>OB>FSx2

ITx2>OBx2>FSX4

rinse and repeat......

obviously you need to watch your runes and keep a prio rotation if you mess it up at any point.

The World of Warcraft Armory

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Old 04/29/09, 9:55 PM   #3897
Lowdown
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Rogue
 
Boulderfist
Poisons combat spec fist

is it main hand for instant or deadly and off-hand deadly? i dont know if they change the posions now? this is for raiding im talking about.

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Old 04/30/09, 1:54 AM   #3898
Critscream
Glass Joe
 
Orc Rogue
 
Thaurissan
Hi guys,

First time poster here, however I do read everything that is posted in this thread (usually) when I have time at work. I've been quite busy lately so I haven't had a chance to go through the whole thread - so please forgive me if the question I'm about to ask has been previously answered.

Is being expertise capped (or very close to) worth breaking t7 4pc bonus? I recently received Chestguard of the Recluse from a 25 maly pug (my guild doesn't do any of the "old raids" anymore now that we are focused on progressing through Ulduar). Now Rawr says that it's currently my best chest that I can get with my current gear Armory Link. It takes me to 0.25% off the expertise cap and I am hit capped. Now I was just wondering how accurate is that? I have done some very little inaccurate testing - ran Naxx 25 after I got it but that was a pug and I haven't run that in a while so although I was topping meters on every fight, I haven't done naxx since 3.1 came out so unsure of what figures I should be getting.

If anyone could please inform me of whether or not its worth using Chestguard of the Recluse over my t7 4pc set bonus WITH my current stats, I would be much obliged.

Omniblayde
Thaurissan

EDIT:

I know that it should be pretty straight forward as pre-3.1 Judgment was our highest damaging ability so the 4pc set bonus was a must if we were to push ourselves to the limit (in most cases), however now that they have nerfed Judgment and Buffed seals, one would think that more seals hitting > 1 sec cd on Judgements (which isn't even in my top 3 damaging abilities on recount) - I'm just not convinced that the extra amount of seals that would be hitting outweighs the damage from getting more judgments in per minute .

(For those of you that might directly view my stats through Rawr)

Thanks for your troubles.

If it's any help, my most recent WWS from Ulduar25 (only 3 bosses but atleast 4 attempts on each)

Last edited by Critscream : 04/30/09 at 2:06 AM.

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Old 04/30/09, 1:58 AM   #3899
Nokturnis
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Orc Shaman
 
Anub'arak
Originally Posted by Rouncer View Post
Yes, you just wasted dkp picking that up and deprived your raid of a weapon that probably would have been useful on another class.
No haha, dont wory The rogue is the only person that could use it, and hes not specced for maces, he's specced to take mah fist weps lol. But, im gonna run the SIM like that one dude said (thanks) and just see, like ive said ive been doing fine when i had no other options for OH except for Sinisters Revenge.

As far as me wasting my DKP, im kinda pissed... seriously just armory my toon, i still have the damn Metorite Wetstone.

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Old 04/30/09, 2:13 AM   #3900
Memento
Igneous
 
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Draenei Shaman
 
Dragonblight
I have a question about hit rating that you can please feel free to delete if it is incorrect or stupid. I currently have 341 hit rating, and when I mouse over it it tells me I have exactly 13.00% increased chance to hit. Do I not need an extra point, or is the paperdoll displaying a rounding error? Alliance Shaman, to save you looking it up.

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