Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1566

Zakkaro · 01/25/11, 8:32 PM

Was wondering how good is [Impatience of Youth] with the buffs to mastery as TG? maybe not as good as the listed trinkets but still a nice one too?

Draconium · 01/25/11, 9:04 PM

Ok, maybe I missed it some where, but is there a simple this is the build, and these are your priorities some where for Fury?? I see one for Demo Locks and I see it for Prot Warrior, as well as most of the other classes, but not for Arms or Fury. I am currently working up a Fury Warrior and have almost no idea what I am doing. I am making a lot of assumptions as I go, but would like some help along these lines. ..

reighnman · 01/25/11, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Draconium

Ok, maybe I missed it some where, but is there a simple this is the build, and these are your priorities some where for Fury?? I see one for Demo Locks and I see it for Prot Warrior, as well as most of the other classes, but not for Arms or Fury. I am currently working up a Fury Warrior and have almost no idea what I am doing. I am making a lot of assumptions as I go, but would like some help along these lines. ..

See the Warrior FAQ:
http://elitistjerks.com/f81/t110350-...estions_later/

Taurmenothe · 01/26/11, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Sharkweek

Can anyone confirm if t11 2-piece affects the flame shock DoT as well as the spell itself? The tooltip says "flame shock spell" but I've been looking at my total damage done after running heroics/raids and the crit rate of the DoT *seems* to be 10% higher than my crit chance on my character sheet. Am I imagining this or does it indeed affect the DoT?

Looking from parse logs on my shaman. In almost every case my Flameshock Dot crit rate and flameshock initial crit was were the same and about 8-12% higher than most of my other abilities.

Kimpaan · 01/26/11, 1:14 AM

Hm, I used rawr some for the first time now.

Only me that think its abit wrong sometimes? Because in my eyes.. 60 int, 20 crit and 20 hit vs 80 int.. the first wins, but according to 80 int wins :/

Marraver · 01/26/11, 1:43 AM

Therefore 2635 haste rating (2482 for Goblins) from gear is what you should be aiming for in this tier. This does not only provide Immolate with an additional tick, but also brings us to a 1 sec GCD.

A full spreadsheet of haste required for each DoT can be found here: Warlock DoT Haste Calculations - Thanks to Keldion for this spreadsheet.

Excuse me if I'm retarded, but do we aim for the 2589 rating the spreadsheet shows (under the non-goblin haste numbers with dark intent and wrath) for the 7th tick or the 2635 as stated above? I'm just trying to make sense of the difference between these 2 numbers.

lostspyder · 01/26/11, 2:06 AM

Hrmm, I know that during LK there was a list of encounters with pushback floating around in the mage forums. I'm wondering if there is one for Cata content. It would be interesting to spec into improved fire blast for AoE heavy fights where you are using impact - and the best way to pick up the points is to drop Burning Soul - it could be a noteworthy dps increase for impact fights if there isn't spell pushback.

Jorily · 01/26/11, 2:52 AM

quick question over trinket: with the next patch some new Alchemy stones will be available.
Among them there will be "Quicksilver Alchemist Stone" with a + 301 Agi and + 194 Crit.
As "raid starter" (means all 346 iLvl ) do you think it could be worthwile compared to other "heroic" blue trinket?

Rorimli · 01/26/11, 3:44 AM

Has anyone been looking at Virulence vs. Blood Tap cd + Butchery for 4.0.6?

R00k!3 · 01/26/11, 3:58 AM

Yes it is, Agi and Crit are our best stats and more ILvl means more stats!
It is even better than Tia's Grace which itself is a pretty neat pre raid item.
I would go with Alchemist Stone and Tia's Grace which you can replace with Fluid Death later on.

However keep in mind that under some circumstances trinkets with proccs might yield a better result.

zeraveth · 01/26/11, 4:39 AM

I'm a crit based resto shaman due to benefit from talents, mana regen, and decent healing. on fights where AOE healing and people are hugged I'm very strong, on fights where people are spread and moving is required, not as strong obviously. I find crit a very valuable stat untill your very low on mana issues, been recently focusing bit more on haste due to be able to afford it. You can see on the linked fight, that it's quite decent, and often find myself on top of meters, unless there is some paladin who got a lot to do aswell and people are very low on health.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-z-bZQT ... r_embedded

zeraveth · 01/26/11, 4:46 AM

Originally Posted by Marrows

Would be nice to have a talent such as if earth sheild is on a target you could cast something that would use all charges but the target takes 30-40% less dmg for some amount of time on some sort of cooldown on par with other healers.

Rly good idea actually, would make us more usefull.

Daveuk · 01/26/11, 5:19 AM

I feel I am doing low dps in raids compared to our other 2 dps warriors the RL as been really good to me and aint kicked me from raids yet or swapped me out and I respect that cus i'd of kicked myself out... i'll link a few WoL and wow armory.

Sharprage @ Aszune - Game - World of Warcraft

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Just abit worried I am gonna be kicked from the guild as since i've started raiding not managed to keep up with the other 2 dps warriors who are breaking 15-16k each boss I am doing 12-13k.. I've spent thousands on reforging, gemming etc and been on lots of different websites (only played a melee class 2-3 months) used to normally play a range class. rotation is the following

on the pull

DW > CS > Recklessness > BT > HS > RB and then i'll follow a rotation of CS > BT > RB > (HS 60% Rage) slam on blood surge procs.. Thanks for any help/tips I can get appreciate it.

*EDIT* the bracers aint enchanted because there new I used other bracers on each fight etc my gear was always gemmed, enchanted etc.

Jellygoose · 01/26/11, 5:44 AM

I'm getting consistently higher dps on dummy in ptr as dw frost than UH 2h.. on live 2h uh is ahead on both dummy and real bosses.

any1 else experiencing the same? I experience about 5-7% dps lead with dw frost.

Shikimara · 01/26/11, 5:55 AM

The mastery and haste I get for my results are always 25 each to high. Am I missing something?