Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1573

Estha · 01/28/11, 1:16 AM

Originally Posted by Jmickey

Demonology will once again be using the Felguard as it's primary demon. It seems that Succubus' Lash of Pain was being modeled as a spell, rather than a melee attack, and not taking into account armor and the like.

See here:

http://elitistjerks.com/f80/t110222-...1/#post1845907

It might be worth noting however, that on fights like Atremedes, where there are constant Air Phases, out of reach of the Felguard, that the glyphed Succubus will fair better than the Felguard.

I wonder if Glyph of Felguard will be superior to Glyph of Incinerate if 4.0.6 goes live, especially with its value increasing with mastery (which we will stack as demo I guess).

Annexis · 01/28/11, 1:37 AM

hi all

here is my Char
Annexis @ Antonidas - Spiel - World of Warcraft

Nearly 6k ZM, Hitcap, 2066 Haste und 12.5% Krit.

should i reforge Haste to Krit to have both at the same level or is it correct to collect so much Haste.

at the PVP Boss, there is not so much movement and i make my 20k Dps, is it okay?

I will glad to see a few tipps

thx all

Isinrul · 01/28/11, 1:42 AM

Does anybody know the internal cool down of fall of mortality? I was just comparing trinkets and was wondering. Also, what are peoples thoughts on Bis trinkets. I know there are a lot out there.

Solid Snake 075 · 01/28/11, 1:47 AM

So I was doing the math (or attempting to) comparing the Heroic Einhorn's Galloshes to Melodious Slippers and the results were as follows:

Melodious Slippers = 1015.9968 + 327.2854 + 457.0873 = 1800.3695

Heroic Einhorn's Galloshes = 1138.8096 + 161.49406 + 234.37228 + 232.3548 = 1767.03074

I used the stat weights from the original post, and accounted for the 40% haste being removed and the hit being added to the Einhorn's Galloshes. Can anyone confirm and/or check my math?

Edit: This should account for proper gems as well.

Innulock · 01/28/11, 2:10 AM

Originally Posted by Estha

I wonder if Glyph of Felguard will be superior to Glyph of Incinerate if 4.0.6 goes live, especially with its value increasing with mastery (which we will stack as demo I guess).

All demonology profiles for simcraft are currently using imp-pet with the imp glyph, so you can assume it's better than both incinerate and felguard glyphs.

Voodach · 01/28/11, 2:32 AM

Originally Posted by Arthur Dent

Shamans [Glyph of Healing Stream Totem] also increases Nature resistance and should almost always be present with a Resto-Shaman in your group. BoK/MotW provide Nature and Arcane resistance as well, though by a much smaller margin.
Don't know right now if the bonus from the elixir is additive, but I guess so. Meaning they are still situationally useful.

I have 202 nature and arcane resistance rating (97 + 105 from the elixier) when we are raiding. So it is additive, but I am not 100% sure with which other buff. Seems to be the totem since we also have a resto shaman in our raid setup.

Fierss · 01/28/11, 2:33 AM

They're additive, and your post is garbage.

Blutelf, Caustic slime shouldn't be hitting your tanks unless it's on normal, in which case a paladin can just heal themselves up if you're worried about it.

Nauron · 01/28/11, 3:06 AM

Sorry if this has been discussed already, but I remember seeing something on MMO about Blizz changing the Hellscream's Reach/Alliance equivilant Mandala of Stirring Patterns to proc Int instead of Mastery. I was wondering if this trinket would be on par with some of the other trinkets? Right now I'm using the Tear of Blood and Blood of Isiset because of the spirit procs, but am close to getting the DMC.

Trazhenko · 01/28/11, 3:08 AM

I don't really intend to raid, but I still enjoy optimizing my character for the content that I'm playing (i.e. heroic dungeons). Are the EP weights from things like the shadowcraft tool still correct for me, considering that I only attack level 87 mobs? My spell hit is obviously way over cap for level 87, turning most of my hit rating into white hit. If the EP weights still fall in the same order for a +2 target, I should be turning as much of that white hit as possible into better stats.

I realize this is a forum based around raiding, but please humor me in this simple questions thread. I'm a retired raider min/maxing for my dungeon queue

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shinato · 01/28/11, 3:47 AM

I'm a long time reader of EJ and with the upcoming changes to DK's, is there a clearer image on what stats we will be looking at? It seems mastery will be getting better but will it be better then crit or even exp?

In other words, what is the statweigth going to look like?

Deepdigger · 01/28/11, 5:17 AM

Originally Posted by Lichloathe

Avoidance appears to, on average, pretty soundly beat Mastery in all scenarios except a simple Dragon Breath on a timer. Some things to note:

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wouldnt it be interesting to see what happens if you make a "balanced" allocation of stats, just for comparison? Maybe it even outperforms a "raw" strategy of maxing a stat.

zetrac · 01/28/11, 5:21 AM

i am playing mostly holy for now but sometimes dpsing
i am currently using heart of solace and impatience of youth
i was wondering if it could be a dps upgrade to get the new force alchemist stone when the patch 4.0.6 will go up and which trinket to replace

Totentanz · 01/28/11, 5:23 AM

according to EnhSim ep values, [Elementium Hammer] appears to be the best weapon choice
for the 4.0.3a FT/FT setup.
Notice that on Wowhead it shows as a 204.8 dps weapon, while ingame tooltip and stats is 409.7 dps

EDIT: sorry, I didn't check for heroic versions of Cho'gall and Nefarian caster maces. Anyway, Elementium Hammer is very close in terms of ep value, and should be a little more easy to obtain

wavehunta · 01/28/11, 5:34 AM

HI,

I have a Interupt question... as we shammies have now become quite important for our interupts.. i was wondering is our wind shear spell effected by the 17% spell cap on lvl88 bosses?.. or is windshear a specail attack and will give no misses??

sry if this has been posted else where i have looked but could find nothing

bigtractor · 01/28/11, 6:19 AM

Hello everyone,
First of all lots of cred to Cochice and everyone else who has contributed to this thread.
Apart from the character linked to my account here, for anyone interested my shaman is called Fenris on Tarren Mill EU.

Anyway, I haven't been able to find anything about it but I really wanted to know if anyone has had a chance to run some numbers on Glyph of Windfury, with the way WF is on PTR?
Does it look like it will replace any of our current glyphs?