Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1576

Lyska · 01/28/11, 4:04 PM

Originally Posted by wavehunta

HI,

I have a Interupt question... as we shammies have now become quite important for our interupts.. i was wondering is our wind shear spell effected by the 17% spell cap on lvl88 bosses?.. or is windshear a specail attack and will give no misses??

sry if this has been posted else where i have looked but could find nothing

Wind Shear is a spell and is on the spell hit table. You need 17% to assuredly interrupt a boss cast.

Petrus · 01/28/11, 4:30 PM

The thing I tend to do, if AoEing, is HoR on cooldown then just judge, HW (glyphed and thus largely used as a minor survivability CD to stun dragons/elementals if that's what I'm tanking), and avenger's shield (unglyphed) on CD (and of course hope for procs, which would increase the dps). How much of a DPS loss is the skip of consecration? I have been ignoring it completely these days.

Also, to echo the advice on Judgement, I always judge on CD and never run oom when AoEing. If I delay it a few GCDs I'll end up dry fairly quickly, though.

duzii · 01/28/11, 4:44 PM

Hi!I have problem with my warrior. My armory : Izudd @ Burning Legion - Game - World of Warcraft . So I do not know if my items / gems are appropriate. Now I have 2580 VP and I dont know what I should buy. I previously waited until I got heart of rage and then I but licens to slay but I dont know, is this a good idea? I can't get bettter weapon to mh than Akirus the Worm-Breaker and with heart of rage I will have to much expertise... What should I do to get largest buff in dps ? (I also can buy Woe Breeder's Boots on ah- only 12k g)

Ymirsson · 01/28/11, 4:47 PM

Originally Posted by Sulphuric

- of the Stormblast (crit + hit)
- of the Windflurry (crit + haste) - best option post pre-4.0.6
- of the Windstorm (crit + mastery)
- of the Zephyr (haste + mastery) - best option 4.0.6

Have anyone found any combinations beyond that? Otherwise it would show exp/haste & hit/haste is non-existant.

this is the most comprehensive list i have found so far.
even though i dont understand why the options are limited.

Item suffix - Wowpedia - Your wiki guide to the World of Warcraft

stoke · 01/28/11, 5:09 PM

Originally Posted by Ashenmoor

Long story short, you believe haste is overrated? While your meters lend themselves to this idea, the value of haste (as far as I can tell) is not so much about the increase in hps/hpm it provides, but how much better it is at providing an increase than crit or mastery. So without definitive proof of mastery or crit being superior, isnt haste still going to be the best stat for throughput?

That's the million dollar question, and hopefully theorycrafting will answer this conclusively.
Haste is probably not overrated. I think my goal is to get people to stop thinking that the 916 haste breakpoint is this magical number that every shaman needs to obtain.

Marzabul · 01/28/11, 5:49 PM

I am sorry for bringing up this old post, but I didn't found better place to discuss this subject.

In my guild we are thinking about what kind of loot sistem could we use in our (at the moment) 10 man raids. The two winners are loot council and GDKP, but we came at a match deciding between both. So I proposed doing first a test run with GDKP with simbolic prices, and then let people say.

I know, I understand that this is crazy and not advised for guild runs, but asuming that, even if I am intrigued about using GDKP inside the guild, if we really use it I wonder what implications and measures should I take. For now, they accept to make the test, so we don't have to work too much about "selling" them the idea of the GDKP, but the only ideas I got in order to make good use of GDKP were scarce.

I thought about taking a part of the pot for the guild bank to help repairs. We think this is a great idea, because we are using part of that money to help our raids, even if its indirectly.

I learned about this "1/3 to second bidder" from Gevlon, whose guild is already using GDKP in guild runs, and seemed fairly interesting; in few words, when someone wins an item, 1/3 of what he pays goes to the second bidder. But seemed kinda complicated to implement at first.

Thoughts, suggestions, ideas?

Äuch · 01/28/11, 6:38 PM

totally off topic but I have a question about gearing. Im playing around with the rwar4 program and Im curious if the program automatically gives the dps bonus for set bonuses from tier. Right now the box is unchecked in the buff bar and rwar is telling me that using corefire leg guards over the magma plated ones which provide my 2 set is a fair decent dps increase. heres a link to my armory if you want to see but im not 100% sure about rwars decision but then again i have seen top end dk's not even using set pieces and doing major numbers so im not sure what to think.

Äuch @ Ner'zhul - Game - World of Warcraft

Inkux · 01/28/11, 8:10 PM

Loading character info:
java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to load items from Armory URL: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/Ragnaros/inku/advanced
	at Character.<init>(Character.java:82)
	at Reforger.runReforging(Reforger.java:95)
	at ReforgerApplet$ReforgerRunnable.run(ReforgerApplet.java:85)
	at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.security.AccessControlException: access denied (java.net.SocketPermission us.battle.net:80 connect,resolve)
	at java.security.AccessControlContext.checkPermission(Unknown Source)
	at java.security.AccessController.checkPermission(Unknown Source)
	at java.lang.SecurityManager.checkPermission(Unknown Source)
	at java.lang.SecurityManager.checkConnect(Unknown Source)
	at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2SecurityManager.checkConnect(Unknown Source)
	at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)
	at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.<init>(Unknown Source)
	at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)
	at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)
	at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getNewHttpClient(Unknown Source)
	at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.plainConnect(Unknown Source)
	at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(Unknown Source)
	at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)
	at Character.<init>(Character.java:58)
	... 3 more

I can't run the applet... someone can help me plz ?

janobe · 01/28/11, 8:31 PM

hey hamlet 1st off i would like to say i love you posts, they help alot with thisngs im a little iffy on. but it would be great if you or anyone could take a look at my druid and make a list of what gear i should replace with what and if im missing any ench or gemming wrong. i know there is a few ench i need to change but it would be great if you or anyone could make me a list on what gear i can replace with something.

ceasefire · 01/28/11, 11:27 PM

Is the four piece bonus worth using the inferior pieces compared to the superior offset stuff? I wonder how a gearset composed of the best offset replacements and using the two piece bonus (one being the Chestpiece) would compare to your BiS rankings. Have you considered or analyzed them?

liezryou · 01/29/11, 12:41 AM

I'm a bit confused here as to which values to use for stat calculation for gear. I'm trying to figure out whether the conquest point relic is better or the valor point relic, can anyone help me? I realize it explicitly states not to ask this question but I'm really at a loss as to which stat weights to use.

nitrax · 01/29/11, 2:20 AM

Has anyone put together a BIS list. I tried and was suprised to find out that my crit went down and haste doubled. The info I came up with was:

SP 8011
Haste 1662
Hit 1712 (which was a bit low)
Crit 1449
Mastery 790

That is also with PTR on. The haste was high like that still without PTR checked. Please let me know if this is accurate or feedback.

I raided with extra haste this week to reach the 812 cap for combustion and my dps was on an average of 1-3k lower.

Fire spec^^

Keltos · 01/29/11, 3:18 AM

Originally Posted by liezryou

I'm a bit confused here as to which values to use for stat calculation for gear. I'm trying to figure out whether the conquest point relic is better or the valor point relic, can anyone help me? I realize it explicitly states not to ask this question but I'm really at a loss as to which stat weights to use.

Unless I am mistaken from what I have gathered in this thread, outside of getting the four piece PvE tier set bonus, 352 PvP < 359 PvE < 365 PvP < 372 PvE items. That is if the highest item level with most strength trumps ratings at the current time.

aking43 · 01/29/11, 3:55 AM

Could I have some legitament feedback concerning SMF and the Claw of Torment/Agony set. I have looked all over for intelligent commentary but am met with unchecked comments and nothing of any substance. I understand that they are definetly not bis on anyday. I also understand that agility is bad for warriors and that ideally str would be best on the Torment claw, but am curious how they stack up against other pairs of weapons with the same ilevel. It would be nice to AT LEAST know that SMF's %15bonus is applied to fist weapons or that perhaps the Claw of Agony would work as a regular offhand. The talent tree says weapons not swords, axes,ect. If this is an inappropriate comment, yall can delete, but Ive done my homework and have come up with nothing conclusive so a point in the right direction would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

Yotka · 01/29/11, 4:17 AM

Haven't played or theorycrafted since Naxxramas at LK, but I was curious and checked some WoL/WMO parses, is it normal that Arms warriors don't use rend/thunderclap on "AoE heavy" fights?

Has anyone given a 31/5/5 a try? Sorry if it's been used/mentioned or w.e, but I didn't have the patience to go through the previous pages.