Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1578

Silverwind · 01/29/11, 6:09 PM

Originally Posted by Akiie

Wondering if anyone has some stat weights from Simcraft using PTR build 13561 lieing around?

Would help much with gearing and gemming myself up

Here from my latest Preview of today:

Or alternatively, from Lhivera's update yesterday:

These are for 372 BiS, of course.

Windchilla · 01/29/11, 6:37 PM

Originally Posted by ParamountDruid

Is it possible for Skull Bash to be dodged? I seem to remember something about mobs being unable to dodge while casting, and if that is the case, would it make sense to prioritize hit over expertise when dealing in terms of interrupt viability?

Since hit and expertise are equal from a purely DPS standpoint, I feel as though I should choose a piece with hit over an identical piece with expertise. Any insight is appreciated.

The only cap you need to worry about with regard to interrupts is the Hit cap.

The 4 piece set bonus for Bear is very good. In many fights it allows SI to remain up for two high damage abilities rather than one. For example you can SI two breaths during Maloriak Red phase with proper timing using the 4 piece bonus.

Zhenek · 01/30/11, 3:27 AM

From my results i've figured out that haste becomes pretty much equal when you hit the 812 thereshold:
Int SP Hit Crit Haste Mastery
Scale Factors 2.4627 1.9145 2.1042 1.1100 1.1575 0.7202 for my armory life
(haste had 1.6 value when I had less then 812 haste)
Scale Factors 2.7593 2.1138 2.1403 1.1084 1.3331 0.9097
Ptr, yeah, seems like it jumps a bit coz of mana freedom.

georgevenos · 01/30/11, 3:33 AM

/cast !Lichborne
/cast [@player] Deathcoil

i tried the macro in the way that you told me and again it is not working .... i am spamming the button all the time but death coil doesnt go off .... i am using it exactly like this ....
please help me ....

AruthaWhitewolf · 01/30/11, 3:43 AM

The @player replaced with @(your name) would make it easier to understand for the computer

Letheal · 01/30/11, 4:56 AM

Hello! Sorry, it's maybe a bit off from this topic but I was wondering that Charscale Leg Armor enchant would be better for enchance shamans then Dragonscale Leg Armor? You got almost the same amount of crit and ap from agi and you got stamina, too. So you can take a bit more of the damage, and get the same benefit from agi, if my calculations are correct. Thanks for helping me out.

Nekrovski · 01/30/11, 5:06 AM

Originally Posted by georgevenos

/cast !Lichborne
/cast [@player] Deathcoil

i tried the macro in the way that you told me and again it is not working .... i am spamming the button all the time but death coil doesnt go off .... i am using it exactly like this ....
please help me ....

"Death Coil" is two words. That's the problem.

amped · 01/30/11, 5:14 AM

Would it be worth dropping Glyph of Pyroblast in favor of Living Bomb? The amount of potential ignite munching from the extra crit on the DoT might be worth replacing. I'm still not 100% positive if it even affects Pyroblast!'s initial hit or not.

Michail · 01/30/11, 5:31 AM

Hi, i am a mage and wanted to ask if my critical mass debuff (5 % spell crit on target) works for rogue's poisons ? It should work but i am not sure so please tell me

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Genzen · 01/30/11, 9:03 AM

When the patch hits, I'm going to be having two Disc sets - one with AA/A, and one without. I'm looking to see if anyone has any suggestions. Here's what I'm thinking:

With Archangel

Without Archangel

Both will be used as a primary tank-healer, and the decision as to which to use will depend mostly on if it's a fight where I can afford to stack and maintain Evangelism, and whether or not having access to the 15% increased healing CD from Archangel will be of significant use in the fight.

Now, my main concern is to whether or not it's even worth doing, or if the talents gained by dropping Archangel are all worthless. By dropping Archangel and Atonement, I gain the reduced CD on PW:S (for shield-spamming) as well as the third point in Mental Agility; I get the second point in SoS (to increase uptime on PW:S on the tank), and then, since I'll be doing less casts per minute (no smites, so slower spells used), I've dropped SoL to fill up Empowered Healing and get an extra point in Darkness. I'm also forced to take one point in Inner Sanctum.

I'm also wondering if SoL is worth taking even with a Smite build - I see a lot of comments saying it's not very good (averaging at ~ 1ppm), so would I be better off filling up Empowered Healing and putting another point in Darkness or having full points in Darkness, or will SoL be more useful when Smiting to maintain the Evangelism buff?
Personally, I think that SoL will yield less net healing, but I can see that getting a free, instant FH to be quite useful to help a low-health raider or to use on the move, but I might be underestimating the effect of the low proc rate.

Drerik · 01/30/11, 9:51 AM

Originally Posted by MjollnirBF

While I do agree that it would be a hit to our AoE, I'm thinking more about fights that don't require adds to be burned. Even in those fights though we don't spread our diseases because of the damage they do...we spread them to make all our abilities do more damage and to increase the damage of our fellow magic raiders...

If there are adds in an encounter you either burn them down at some point or you ignore them completely. Depending on the number of adds, you would very much want to spread your diseases just because of the damage they do. I'm no mathemagician, but i would guess that the required number of adds from where on our diseases become a big portion of our damage is not that big.

-50% disease dmg would hurt... alot, imho.

Lugz · 01/30/11, 12:08 PM

So if I'm reading these numbers correctly, based on current PTR information, all 3 Hunter specs are now competitive with one another, and choosing one over the other no longer results in a prohibitive dps loss?

I ask because having BM become competitive would make forming our 10 mans easier, due to the 3% buff they bring. We can't do that right now, because the dps difference between Survival and BM is just too drastic to justify the buff.

MikaElias · 01/30/11, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by bretts2516

I installed a Relentless Earthsiege Diamond and quickly realized that it isn't activated. I've currently got 4 purple gems, 3 red gems and 2 orange gems installed in 4 blue sockets, 3 red sockets and 2 yellow sockets.

It seems like I've got the correct socket configuration to activate the meta gem, but there's obviously something about the gem configuration that doesn't work.

How are purple gems counted? As red gems or as blue gems?

Purple gems are both red and blue.

Rouncer · 01/30/11, 1:49 PM

Try it with EP values.

Agility is about 2.5, Crit is about 0.75, AP is 1 while Stamina is 0

Charscale = 55 agility + 145 Stamina = 137.5 EP
Dragonscale = 190 AP + 55 crit rating = 231.25 EP

Valimar · 01/30/11, 3:06 PM

With the changes to Fury of Angerforge next patch, it's gone up in desirability for Frost. Has it become a viable alternative to the License/Heart combination or are they still the superior pre HM combination of trinkets?