Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1579

Beastmachine · 01/30/11, 3:35 PM

For an Arcane spec, would it be better to have two points in Incanter's Absorption for the situational benefit of Mage Ward eating some raid damage and giving you a dps increase or would it be better for those two points to be spent in either Ignite or Fire Power to beef up your Flame Orbs (since I'm fairly certain Arcane still uses it). I'm figuring that any buff to Flame Orb would always be a dps increase, barring those times when Flame Orb bugs out, while the points in IA would be more situational, but also give Arcane Mages something to cast while moving to potentially help compensate for the damage lost.

Skylo · 01/30/11, 6:06 PM

Some Questions about the Cho'Gall Encounter:

We recently started trying Cho in 10-man. We actually made it to 35% before the adds became too much kinda or corruption killed us.

Question: How can I slow and kill the blob-Adds more efficiently ... Instantpoison on Thrown (? or DP?) and 2/2 Deadly Brew (100% slow chance). Is Crippling Glyph and improved FoK Range worth it? As DPS we just got Shadow Priest, Hunter, Warlock as Range dps and Retri Pala as Melee ! (BloodDK Tank, PalaTank) not the best bomb squad after all...

Generelly Tips for this fight as a rogue are very welcome.

Thx a lot in advance...

Keddax · 01/30/11, 6:36 PM

This probably isnt the best place to place this but being as I main a resto shammy and this is where i usually come i thought I'd check here first. As of the January 26 hotfix blizzard had posted this:

"•Heroic set tokens have been moved to earlier bosses on 25-player Heroic difficulty. Here is the new breakdown of token drops on 10- and 25-player Heroic difficulty: chest from Halfus, legs from Maloriak, gloves from Magmaw, helm from Nefarian, shoulder from Cho'gall."

This seemed a bit contradictory to me as in the first sentence there is no mention of 10 mans and in the next breath 10 mans are included. Could anyone confirm that all 5 HEROIC T11 pieces are available in both 10 man and 25 man. Someone was saying that 10 man heroic bosses do not drop chest, legs, or gloves and this would be dissapointing if it were true. Thank you for your time!

Rësto · 01/30/11, 8:20 PM

Originally Posted by Nihlo

I see a lot of different haste-caps in this forum. Can anyone confirm these values (5% raidbuff included):

Without Dark Intent

Reju: 915

LB: 1220

RG: 1423

WG: 2004

LB: 2440

With Dark Intent

Reju: 534

LB: 830

RG: 1028

WG: 1593

LB: 2016

?

This man has a very good question..

Anyone answer?

newbmaster · 01/30/11, 10:10 PM

Lists are great and it's nice to see what to aim for, but I'm curious if anyone has generated a list yet for BiS pre-Heroic raids. Cause the BiS boots are only attainable once you are doing Heroic BoT.

DARUKTI · 01/31/11, 12:10 AM

A simple fix for your succy / fel pup is thus:

#showtooltip Shadow bolt
/cast Demon Soul
/cast Shadow bolt

Don't need to waste all your shards and you use DI.

I am in a 10-man guild and I run afflicdrain/demo due to the extra self healing. With the patch, I almost want to run a PVP type spec with the loss of ISF.

Also with the loss of inferno's range I don't want to see how magmaw/cho'gall will turn out added with the loss of a lot of the demo on demand burst

DARUKTI · 01/31/11, 12:14 AM

Why is affdrain using imp on the PTR profile? I am assuming for manafeed but unless I missed something about pet spell queuing being fixed wouldn't it be better to use felpup (for DI also)?

Madgamer · 01/31/11, 1:31 AM

In regards to the talent changes coming in 4.0.6 and the placement/mechanic change to ISF talent how will our talent spread change? I was wondering if anyone has been trying out new talent builds on the PTR. I've been looking at some myself (4/31/6) with but have come to the question of the usefulness of the emberstorm talent versus D&G or imp Corr. If the talents stay the same emberstorm will essentially lose its *Umph* as a talent as our filler is SB an incin only when MC procs, if its use is more for decimation then I might rethink my build. If anyone has tested builds i would like to see the spread.

Raveman · 01/31/11, 1:46 AM

What is the best class to play mage? Atm i am playing as arcane...but thinking to go back fire!

So Goblin or Troll?

Thx

Zerephon · 01/31/11, 2:33 AM

I'm having a short question about Execute phase, maybe someone can clarify this for me...

Would it be a DPS gain, when reaching the Execute phase to instant switch to felhunter and cast Demon Soul to push Drain Soul? Or is the DPS loss from switching Pets higher?

DrRumpus · 01/31/11, 3:21 AM

Troll haste bonus is equal to 0.2*10/180 = 1.11% and Goblin is 1%. For arcane on use haste is more effective as you can line it up with burn phases. For fire though static haste is better to reach haste soft caps. Also goblin jump is very usefull for many encounters.

Frost mages will probably benefit most from Orc as Water Elemental is effected by 5% pet damage bonus (as far as I know).

Reyna · 01/31/11, 3:23 AM

Originally Posted by Keddax

This probably isnt the best place to place this but being as I main a resto shammy and this is where i usually come i thought I'd check here first. As of the January 26 hotfix blizzard had posted this:

"•Heroic set tokens have been moved to earlier bosses on 25-player Heroic difficulty. Here is the new breakdown of token drops on 10- and 25-player Heroic difficulty: chest from Halfus, legs from Maloriak, gloves from Magmaw, helm from Nefarian, shoulder from Cho'gall."

This seemed a bit contradictory to me as in the first sentence there is no mention of 10 mans and in the next breath 10 mans are included. Could anyone confirm that all 5 HEROIC T11 pieces are available in both 10 man and 25 man. Someone was saying that 10 man heroic bosses do not drop chest, legs, or gloves and this would be dissapointing if it were true. Thank you for your time!

I can confirm that they are. We got a chest token off Halfus this week on 10m iirc, and legs token off Maloriak last week.

xazrael13 · 01/31/11, 3:54 AM

Hey. So far, I have been playing unholy in cata so far, but I have been wanting to switch to frost DW. After the next patch, is frost DW still going to be near top? If so, atm, I have [Fang of Twilight] and [Dawnblaze Blade]. I know the fang is agility, but I got that as noone else in the raid needed it. Is it worth switching to frost DW, and wield those 2, or should I stay unholy 2h, until I get better 1hers?

Alvira · 01/31/11, 4:28 AM

Originally Posted by Ektoplasme

Alvira, I can answer some of your questions.

The DPS during evocation is not zero on the chart because it is an average over thousands of iterations. Since evocation doesn't happen exactly at the same time on average you don't hit 0 exactly. Try a simulation with 1 iteration and you'll see it will reach 0.

About flame orb. This spell has a very high DPET. For arcane, it deals on average 42k damage and this makes it the hardest hitting spell. So using it on cooldown is very important.

I will go and see how much this spell does on a training dummy self buffed. Maybe it makes a big difference raid buffed with top gear. But arcane blast scales up as well. Right now, my impression seems to be that the spell doesnt really do much damage, while arcane blast does a lot of damage per blast. Sorry, will look at this closer. Maybe flame orb scales better with gear.

Darkwizy · 01/31/11, 4:47 AM

What about this?

Simulationcraft Results

Rogue sub make more dps after the patch?, i dont test it in pve, some can confirm.