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Old 02/07/11, 9:17 PM   #24031
Vlyxnol
Von Kaiser
 
Troll Shaman
 
Burning Blade
Originally Posted by sanddemon View Post
Intellect 3625
Spirit 2187
Mastery 10.24
Spell Power 5344
Mana Regen 3373
Haste 12.46%
Crit 16.23%

Thoughts? I'm in the same boat as the others looking for help on how to alleviate the problem. Getting a small buff next patch in comparison to other class changes doesn't seem to fix much.
Your intellect seems REALLY low to me... I'm ilvl 361 and do 25 raiding, as a result I focus on INT/Spirit/Haste/Crit/Mastery as a prio order. My Unbuffed stats are the following.

intellect 5174
Spirit 2233
Mastery 9.41
Spellpower 7118
Haste 13.18
Crit 17.43

Now bear in mind i raid 25's so my primary healing is HR, CH, and ELW usually the percents are 35 HR, 35 CH, and 20ELW. I usually do quite well on meters pulling around 13-14k average on heroics. (of course each fight is different and sometimes its only 9k others it is 20k.

For 10mans, (granted i haven't been in one for a few weeks) my understanding is you generally dont' use CH alot and riptide / HS usually makes up for a larger portion of your healing. As a result Mastery and Crit have a much higher priority than haste because of the spell use change. However Intellect is always and will always be our best stat because of its high throughput and regen value.

Hope my two cents helps.

As far as TC goes.. I use it every fight as much as possible.. Anytime the raid's health is stabilized (near full with no impending inc damage soon) I weave in LB to help with regen, If their are %damage increases in fights and I can lean on other healers a little to get out a few extra lb's I do. I do not spec to get the spirit to hit, I have frequently looked at my own mana gains after fights and find that sometimes my mana gain from TC greatly outweighs WS and sometimes its the other way around. Specing into hit gives us an additional 18% hit and thus roughly 18% more mana from it, losing the WS talent is about the same 15%. To min max I would have 2 specs and switch between them frequently depending on the fight, however I am sometimes asked to go Enh so for me this is not feasible.

Last edited by Vlyxnol : 02/07/11 at 9:26 PM.

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Old 02/07/11, 9:22 PM   #24032
Flooths
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Kor'gall (EU)
Will the OP be updated for the patch ? Spell prio comes to mind

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Old 02/07/11, 9:57 PM   #24033
Dragorh
Glass Joe
 
Orc Shaman
 
Burning Steppes (EU)
I dunno how to test this so my facts may be wrong, but I tend to put Stormstrike above UE because it seems to consume 2 stacks of unleash wind. So it ends up being:

Priority
Searing Totem when one is not active
Lava Lash
Maelstrom Weapon x5 Lightning Bolt
Flame Shock with Unleash Flame buff
Stormstrike
Unleash Elements
Earth Shock
Feral Spirit
Searing Totem

Try to always bring SS before UE, even FS_UEF can be delayed a GCD to get the full UEW. This all assumed SS does in fact consume the stacks. Also pushed the MWx5 up since we'll get more procs with WF proccing 3 attacks.

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Old 02/07/11, 10:41 PM   #24034
Mundayz
Glass Joe
 
Undead Death Knight
 
The Underbog
Has anyone done any number punching as far as if the "new" virulence is going to be a beneficial talent for frost come tomorrow?

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Old 02/07/11, 10:47 PM   #24035
Chukkii
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Chromaggus
So just want to ask for a few opinions since i don't feel the rotations were very well explained in the OP.

So, does your healing rotation look? so far mine is very much (in 10mans anyways) HL, HS, HL, HL, HS tank at low HP, DL + WoG.

Raid is getting hit, DR, then if tank is high LoD, otherwise i spam DL and WoG until he's back upto 100%...

I'm curious just WHEN you would all use GoAK? Would you pop it at the start right away so you get to use it towards the end of the fight? Or pop it when raid is low and you need to help raid heal?

Also, when would one use Divine Plea? Everytime i use it i feel that i NEVER use it and i'm sure there's a good way to take advantage of 10% mana regen...

Everytime i think about popping it the 50% debuff to healing seems to harsh and i feel like i don't have the time to sit around regenning mana while the tank dies in a 10man?

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Old 02/07/11, 11:14 PM   #24036
Lorayth
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Area 52
Originally Posted by nex667 View Post
I`m not sure if it was mentioned here before but you can use the Synapsis Springs and Fury of Angerforge at the same time if you macro them to activate them at the same time. This doesn't work for trinkets that don't need buffstacks to be activated, so these stacks are probably the reason why it works with this trinket and the tinker. For engineers this could even increase the value of FoA cause you can pop trinket and tinker together with AW.
I think it was mentioned before that Synapsis Springs shares the same CD with trinkets, therefore you can't activate both Springs and FoA together.

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Old 02/08/11, 2:24 AM   #24037
Eikichi
Von Kaiser
 
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Dwarf Hunter
 
Kael'thas (EU)
Is 13.99 mastery worth more then 13.00 (just an example)? And is there a different answer depending on spec ?

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Old 02/08/11, 2:32 AM   #24038
Bowwjob
Glass Joe
 
Goblin Hunter
 
Tortheldrin
Here is a good one for Council. If u disengage with the tornado buff it is removed.

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Old 02/08/11, 3:05 AM   #24039
Nexplosion
 
Undead Warlock
 
Boulderfist
Wouldn't the 4.0.6 affliction do better with 2588 haste rating? Same goes with demo.

Currently aff is listed with 2438 with orc profile.

Demo is 2410.

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Old 02/08/11, 3:32 AM   #24040
phete
Glass Joe
 
Goblin Death Knight
 
<Ice>
Executus (EU)
Originally Posted by Mundayz View Post
Has anyone done any number punching as far as if the "new" virulence is going to be a beneficial talent for frost come tomorrow?
Twitter / Consider: And, yes, Virulence is now ...

according to Master Consider it will

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Old 02/08/11, 5:06 AM   #24041
Rzarazor
 
Troll Hunter
 
Blackrock
Edit: Never mind, didn't read the top part of the OP.

Last edited by Rzarazor : 02/08/11 at 5:11 AM.

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Old 02/08/11, 5:46 AM   #24042
Chanze
 
Human Paladin
 
Ner'zhul
Given the current time change to divine plea, and the 1926 int proc of the tb trinket (do not know the confirmed icd of the proc on it however) any thoughts on how well this trinket will fare in with the other ones listed above. I know dp scales with my engi proc so was just wondering

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Old 02/08/11, 6:29 AM   #24043
kgrif7
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Dreadmaul
with the new changes to unheeded warning will it be a better trinket compared to 346 blues?

new stats

Unheeded Warning
Binds when equipped
Unique-Equipped
Trinket
+321 Agility
Requires Level 85
Item Level 359
Equip: Your melee attacks have a chance to increase your weapon damage by 680 for 10 sec.

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Old 02/08/11, 7:21 AM   #24044
Agras
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Hunter
 
Eredar (EU)
Is patch 4.0.6 allready implemented on femaledwarf?

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Old 02/08/11, 7:32 AM   #24045
Latox
 
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Human Priest
 
Tichondrius
I am beginning to start doing arena 2v2 with an unholy DK, could someone please point me in the direction of a good/standard disc priest pvp glyph, talent and gear set up?

Thank you

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