Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1608

Sparrowz · 02/08/11, 7:13 PM

Originally Posted by Mortanious

So I now have my shadow portion of scourge strike as the highest contributor to my DPS. Anyone else finding this to be true?

I was running a couple sims and I noticed that mastery was giving me slightly higher numbers

just by reforging mastery instead of haste anyone else getting this also?

Scrith · 02/08/11, 7:17 PM

After a bit of basic testing on a training dummy with MM today I found that I was getting about 2k DPS higher than I was getting with Survival during some testing last night (gear optimized via FD, ilvl around 356...although I've reforged and re-gemmed a bit more for haste now that I'm MM, as required for highest DPS with my gear according to FD; please note that some of the improvement is no doubt due to being able to use more orange gems, rather than green, in yellow slots now that the crit meta gem has had its requirements changed). This is hardly a scientific set of tests, but the difference in DPS seemed quite clear.

My rotation was based purely on priority: Chimera, Kill, Aimed, Steady (I use the highest priority shot that is available at any given time). This rotation will rarely cause Serpent Sting to fall off the target due to lack of focus for a Chimera for 5s (something I noticed at FD too...it has more than 15s between Chimera Shots sometimes when enabling manual Aimed Shots for the rotation, although the debug output never shows SrS disappearing from the target).

aeonsmaycry · 02/08/11, 7:18 PM

Woot mind blast hits like a truck now, my avg dps went up about 2kish on the dummy. Haven't noticed any bugs as of yet.

abiel.pl · 02/08/11, 7:20 PM

I was wondering if the new alchemist stone would be better than the witching hourglass....right now im running the bell and hourglass.

thanks

Admired · 02/08/11, 7:24 PM

Yes, a Bane of Havoc guide.

Anyways, for Twilight Ascendant Council, there has been rumors and discussions on other forums
about just applying BoH to any of the first 2 bosses in P2. This is viable because your BoH
buff does not go away when Ingacious or Feludius teleports away.

If there is more testing to prove this, placing BoH on one of these 2 will definitely be a DPS increase.

Benihimee · 02/08/11, 7:40 PM

With the current changes on live is it viable to be using the Windfury Weapon glyph? Or are we still using the current ones?

Seiba · 02/08/11, 7:42 PM

Since it's been proven that MG does give a chance at another MH attack for combat has anyone found out if it can chain itself and if not how could one go about testing this? Would a combat log showing two MG procs in a row with no other dmging abilities in between suffice or?

mutilateor · 02/08/11, 7:45 PM

so is there any new word about this new mastery cause i need to know if its moved up in the stat importance

Xenden · 02/08/11, 8:14 PM

Originally Posted by Cochice

Well, while it's true that the change tomorrow is going to bump up the value of Agi weapons (and the WF imbue), it looks like dwarf Shamans might still want to use a Caster mace, at least until heroic Nef axes are available. Simming my current setup with [Torturer's Mercy]/[Cookie's Tenderizer] vs [Crul'korak, the Lightning's Arc]/[Maimgor's Bite], both running WF/FT, with weapon damage adjusted based on what caster weapons were at on PTR has Caster/Melee mace ahead by about 300 dps.

Since there's the disparity with Dwarf shamans when you don't take advantage of the Mace Expertise (Hence the use of Torturer's Mercy and Cookie's Tenderizer), where does Mace of Acrid Death , Mace of Acrid Death - Item - World of Warcraft , fall into your theory of caster maces being better for dwarf shamans?

Nitecloud · 02/08/11, 8:15 PM

Originally Posted by shadowboy813

The change to mastery was a buff to the stat, to be sure, but it doesn't really change the way you gear *that* much. You're still gonna want expertise and haste. The only main implication is that now if you can't avoid both mastery and crit in a given slot, you opt for mastery now instead of crit. If the gear has both stats on it, you reforge the crit instead of mastery.

The only time your gearing choices significantly change from before is if you are both expertise and spell hit capped and there are no options for gaining haste, then mastery is preferable over additional hit.

Cool, thx a lot bud, greatly appreciate it.

Seiba · 02/08/11, 8:16 PM

Since it's been proven that MG does give a chance at another MH attack for combat has anyone found out if it can chain itself and if not how could one go about testing this? Would a combat log showing two MG procs in a row with no other dmging abilities in between suffice or?

Silyth · 02/08/11, 8:22 PM

Originally Posted by Feist-Mok

Fractional expertise works. While the character sheet does not reflect this, you do reduce your chance to be dodged by the appropriate amount.

Thank you for the clarification.

MeesterHat · 02/08/11, 8:25 PM

Very confused at the moment. Enhsim is giving me negative EP values for Hit and Expertise, even though I'm under the cap for both at the moment. Anyone else getting similar results? Are Hit and Expertise not as important as we often suggest?

BarnY94 · 02/08/11, 8:26 PM

So in the end can someone give us our new scalling values plz ?!

Mastery better than crit ? equal ? better than HAste ?!

I m in theeee darrrrkkkk plz help me

fatalentity · 02/08/11, 8:26 PM

Originally Posted by Sulphuric

No, they're not wasted. Fractional expertise adds just as much per rating as a whole expertise does.

Thanks