Then limit it to 3-5 weakened targets at time, no raid will bring 5 disc priests.

Having a good amount of experience raiding now I would like to offer some of my experience. I'm using a 7/2/31 build like kahva from paragon while also following his stat stack of generally Int > Spi > Haste > Mastery/Crit. I also made a strong effort to get Jar of Ancient Remedies and Darkmoon Card: Tsunami to avoid stacking more spirit come patch 4.0.6. My guild raids mainly 25mans while I finish up the bosses left up from guild runs with a few guys on 10man.

I've noticed that in every fight I've had plenty of time to spam lightning bolts when needed while still keeping healing rain down, riptide up, earth shield up, and rolling unleash elements. Still giving me plenty of time to insert chain heals and healing waves when needed. I'm throughput with this strategy is outstanding, I'm usually number one overall on heavy aoe healing fights and top three on general fights. Of course comes a lot of overhealing, but none the less I feel shamans are perfect at what they are built for which is raid healing. I'm interested to see how we fare in upcoming content. If fights will be created with us in mind to stay competitive. And if we will scale correctly with better gear.

I don't know about anyone else but I've noticed not having any mana issues since the patch and
I don't have my four set yet. I've been able to spam healing rains and chain heals with little management lately.

I wonder if it has a range, or if its LoSable. I'm going to go tonite and do some testing on him. I have a DK friend who went to try it earlier this week, he said he was getting overwhelmed during phase 1 by the aboms.

The important thing to note about the stats provided in the OP is that all of them directly increase DPS. The argument could be made that Stam increases DPS by helping to ensure that the warlock does not die, however, this thread is designed to discuss maximizing DPS, not survivability. DPS and survivability and not often direct tied to each other as most damage is avoidable, and therefore the focus while moving out of/avoiding/interrupting said avoidable damage remains on maximizing DPS. For questions on survivability, the Warlock Mechanics thread is a better venue.

The only legitimate argument that can be made in Stam's favor is that more Stam = bigger Life Taps = fewer Life Taps = fewer GCDs used on LT. However, due to the mandatory Glyph of Life Tap, the gain is minimal, and is worth far less per point than any other caster stat. Stam should never be a stat that a warlock worries about.

I've found a better optimized Frost DW Pre-hardmode gear. Here it is: chardev 8 - Cataclysm Beta
I haven't tested it out on Kahorie yet, but following your stat values and considering the lower hit/exp after the cap and the more mastery from the gear than the one mentioned in the guide, it should deal more dps.

12/28/11 - Your, unaltered since its declaration, post concerning the dps value of Avalanche.
1/19/11 - The announcement of the change to Avalanche allowing it to proc off spells.

An extraordinarily simple 3min test on a dummy would have shown you that it was not procing 46 times each minute, procing from spell damage, hitting for 2.2k, or any other ridiculous factor. Instead you went off a seeming basis of "I think so. Therefore, it is."


Well, given that an Enhancement Shaman's mastery appears to be affecting it, it would not be too far off to assume it benefits from things like +spell crit, 8% magic damage debuff, etc.

moved topic question to MM section

It is now conclusive that mastery is better than haste even on single targets. I did multiple tests on heroic Target dummy with the exact same gear.(ilvl 354) the first round of tests, I reforged all the mastery to haste which gave me a 33.5% haste buff and a 32% shadow damage buff. I then reforged the haste to mastery and wound up with 27.5% haste buff and a 43% shadow damage buff. Stacking mastery gave me about 400 dps more on average than stacking haste. You will see more of a benefit stacking mastery with aoe fights as mastery benefits every aoe attack.

What is the next haste jump after 10.8% with 4pc t11. How much is needed Pestilence from Laughing Skull I show has this very next haste threash hold and shows Haste Rating + 1 8.548 8.548 above agilty in terms of DPS.

What is the new rotation with such an amount of haste?

His stats are followed on FD setting full buffs aimed priority Aimed below rapidfire Chimerashot blow readiness and aimed shot behavior aimed instant / manual cast

Ranged Speed + 0.1 88.281 N/A
Haste Rating + 1 8.548 8.548
Note: Different quantities of haste will vary significantly in value due to shot shifting.
Agility + 1 7.578 7.578
Ranged DPS + 1 6.770 N/A
Crit Rating + 1 5.313 5.313
Hit + 1 (when below cap) 2.678 2.678
Attack Power + 1 1.427 2.855
Mastery Rating + 1 0.909 0.909

Pestilence @ Laughing Skull - Game - World of Warcraft

Before we all jump aboard and reforge haste to mastery, can you provide some more information on these tests? Like, how much time did you spend wailing on the target dummy? Secondly, can you try out these experiments on actual raid encounters? It just seems to me that you're not providing enough information to back up your points, never mind call them "conclusive".

That said, until Haste improves the rate of Death and Decay ticks, Mastery will indeed improve AoE damage.

I have a question about the stat weights. Haste is our worst stat and should be reforged away but is there a bottom to what that number should be.I just got some new gear and as of right now I'm sitting at 17.86 mastery, 9.10% crit and only 3.57% haste. I have not had a chance to try this setup out yet in an actual raid yet and I never seem to get accurate results from dummies.