Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1671

Psilux · 02/24/11, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Lambi

Or heaven forbid... click the lightwell which is a much stronger HoT.

So many people don't know how to use this properly. I take it for granted in my raid that people do, and then I often find it unused. You have to specifically tell DPS to click this everytime major damage goes out. If you do not, they will rarely ever click it (tunnel vision on the boss). It makes me cry when my raid leader tells me that I have to tell people when a good time to use this is.

It also makes me enjoy disc that much more.

DeadpeopleRising · 02/24/11, 1:08 PM

Hello, I have a question in regards to reforging. I find myself having to reforge everything for hit and expertise to be capped. Is this normal ?

Also. My guild is currently attempting to down Cho'Gall we have had him as low as 8%. With that being said we have wiped a couple times due to me the tank being Mc'ed while kiting Cho'Gall across the room. Has anyone else run into this issue with that encounter ?

Thank you

Hetril · 02/24/11, 1:42 PM

For retribution, is Crushing Weight better than Fury of Angerforge? I read that haste is now our weakest stat but all the strength on Crushing Weight makes it seem like it could be better than a burst of strength for 20 seconds. Any ideas?

Maje · 02/24/11, 2:56 PM

That actually an excellent post, and if anyone could post it on the US forums it would be much appreciated.

poohjure · 02/24/11, 3:12 PM

Originally Posted by Bobbyfisher

This makes no sense. I'm a dwarf and with currently 722 (can't reforge any lower), I'm at 9.01% hit. Like so many others, you must be forgetting the 3% from the Fury Tree.

10% (7% + 3% Precision) = 841 rating
11% (8% + 3% Precision) = 961 rating

Combat Ratings at level 85 (Cataclysm) is a good place to look for accurate combat rating values.

--Poohjure

Bleakwing · 02/24/11, 4:22 PM

Hey guys few things I could do with clarifying since 4.0.6

After the patch my mana regen and healing has taken a dive, I know we lost some regen but just to check that this is something everyone has experienced?

Also with regards to the updated OP few queries:

Inner Fire / Inner Will? Is Fire still the go to one?
Int/Spirit flasks for raids? Progression orientated

and now that your suggested spec takes renew apart from rolling it on the tanks when else is a decent time to use it?

Cheers!

Bobbyfisher · 02/24/11, 4:49 PM

Originally Posted by poohjure

10% (7% + 3% Precision) = 841 rating
11% (8% + 3% Precision) = 961 rating

Combat Ratings at level 85 (Cataclysm) is a good place to look for accurate combat rating values.

--Poohjure

Isn't that what I said? I said "This makes no sense" referring to the quote in my post.

gopher75 · 02/24/11, 5:23 PM

I was just wondering how far off the BIS is t11 legs from Sky Strider Greaves of the Faultline? its obvious in my guild i probaly wont be getting these any time soon but i could upgrade from the jp vendor legs to these coming up. But i dont wanna have to replace them really soon when i could spend the valor on something else.

so does any one know how far off they are from bis?

Squalltheonly · 02/24/11, 5:43 PM

Well gopher BIS depends a lot on your guild or PUGs, w/e you use to raid. So if your guild cant down certain bosses, then grab w/e purple you can, the str difference alone from an ilevel 346 blue, will increase your DPS however slightly. Dont stress it if you cant get a certain BIS, and dont wait forever for it.

My guild can't down chimaeron or alakir or council, so I am missing out on a lot of BIS. So I am getting my hands on the old BIS gear and also VP gear, like the boots. I am using the helmet from maloriak, the shoulders from halfus, the chest from atremedes, etc. My DPS is not what it should be, but at least is better than if I had my old blues.

gopher75 · 02/24/11, 5:53 PM

thanks. my dps is generally good for what i have. i have the 2 bis world drops, i have the t 11 chest, vp boots, worm breaker mace from magmaw and a dmc hurricane card rest is 5m loot or jp items. i pull around 16k to 19k single target and around 26-29k in aoe fights so im usually number 1-3 in raids (sometimes 9-10 tho when frost dks kick in lol). we run both 10s and 25s but we use skg loot system every time they have droped (twice now) it was after i upgraded another item =/

i was close to buying the corefire leg plates but that was before the mastery patch so ya im glad i didnt but id really like to upgrade as much as possible to help the raids out

Psilux · 02/24/11, 5:54 PM

Originally Posted by Bleakwing

Inner Fire / Inner Will? Is Fire still the go to one?

I use Inner will when I am disc for shield spam. I use Inner Fire for Holy for the extra throughput to raid healing.

Originally Posted by Bleakwing

Int/Spirit flasks for raids? Progression orientated

I use guild cauldrons, it gives automatic 300 int, and my guild pays for it. If you are having mana regen issues, consider the spirit flask (and potting) but it can get expensive. Both are very viable and I carry both in my inventory (but I just don't have to use them).

Originally Posted by Bleakwing

and now that your suggested spec takes renew apart from rolling it on the tanks when else is a decent time to use it?

I don't use it very often at all, mainly just keep it up on the tank. It doesn't heal fast enough to sustain on the raid for aoe healing (COH and POH are better for it). I don't even spec into anything but the first tier talent anymore. it's a big disappointment for me since patch. I wish the HPS was considerably higher. I usually let the druids roll hots and I stick to raid healing as holy.

Tryss · 02/24/11, 6:19 PM

I'm pretty sure they changed Demo Shout so it does not break Stealth a while back.

Darkmother · 02/24/11, 8:31 PM

I would like to thank everyone for the quick response and help. I have run a few heroics and practiced your suggestions. I have yet to test this out in a raid situation but look forward to it as I can see how it works.

I would like to contribute a macro i made. Being a draenei we have access to a free HoT that does Not activate GCD but has the same 3min CD time as Pain Suppression. The macro will cast Gift of the Naaru and Pain Suppression on ur target and announce what u have done in party chat. Hope you find this useful.

#showtooltip Pain Suppression
/cast Gift of the Naaru
/cast Pain Suppression
/p Cast Pain Suppression on %t

Gelorak · 02/24/11, 10:02 PM

First post on a WoW board, not to mention EJ, so please, be gentle.

I'm a long time Arms warrior, so I know well the mechanics of the class. My question is, since the recent patch, is Arms best suited to go with Improved Slam and bypass Incite and HS completely or go with Incite and HS as moves other than CS, MS or overpower?

Has any theorycrafting been done on this? No love so far in web searches. And obviously I'm mostly concerned about PvE here.

Mikael116 · 02/24/11, 11:38 PM

Ive been abit curious if anyone has hit some test numbers on "DMC:Hurricane". I know prior to the recent hotfix with the 2 AiS HC in the rotation[with 4pc T11 and 1383+ haste] it wasnt...but now that its better to use Chim on CD and only a single HC AiS during the Chim CD has this changed?
I know the hit rating was supposed to be moved to ranged and off of the spell hit chance with the hotfix...which also improves the possibility of this being a worhtwhile trinket abit...Call it part nostalgia and part no luck in norm or heroic halfus for EotC or even in heroics for tias...lol.