Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1674

Twiser · 02/25/11, 5:50 PM

Is there any tool besides RAWR and simcraft to check, if i'm gemmed/reforged optimally for my current gear?
I'm currently downloading both, but I believe in WotLK there was a nice and simple excel spreadsheet, is there a cata version of it?

Benjrow · 02/25/11, 7:00 PM

After readin most of this I am still a little confused of what I first we out to find as I've heard several different ideas.
My original questions were about ideal stats:

What's the ideal Haste (the cap)? *not including 5% with totem*
What's the ideal crit (not sure if there is a cap)?
Is there an ideal combat regen?

Also, I still cannot see why 15% movement speed on ancestral swiftness is so important considering most other classes can get out of stuff fast enough with the speed increase.. :S

Finally is one point in 'Telluric Currents' worth it or should I put it somewhere else?

Hacklash · 02/26/11, 1:33 AM

I m having a bit of trouble healing on my very well geared holy paladin in hc's or raids... I ve chosen to stack mastery (18% atm) but i heard mastery sucks... Haste they all say but then i run to crit stack ppl... (everything else spec/glyphs/rotations) are completelly almost identical to the guide here on elitejerks. Does my problem rellies on haste? i see top paladins 370item lvl ones have 10% more haste only... is it that good? and the absorbion shield isnt?

Can i have some tips of you plz? in hcs i shall spam flashes or LoD's?

thanks

Ruskslusk · 02/26/11, 4:03 AM

First of all i would like to thank u whitefyst for the god work. Here's my question, Is there any cast time on SS that you should aim for with pathing and 10% buff? Like the 1.66 for SV.
Think that would be an easier quideline to follow for the majority of people instead of all the haste calculations.

Have a good one!

Mikael116 · 02/26/11, 4:32 AM

seems to be 1.63 cast time on SS from gear[4pc t11] and pathing or arround 1k[or slightly over] haste from gear. That + the ISS and Haste buff in a raid lets you get off the CS-ASx2-SSx5 rotation

Ruskslusk · 02/26/11, 6:18 AM

Originally Posted by Mikael116

seems to be 1.63 cast time on SS from gear[4pc t11] and pathing or arround 1k[or slightly over] haste from gear. That + the ISS and Haste buff in a raid lets you get off the CS-ASx2-SSx5 rotation

Yea but now when we are using AS as focus dump under 80% shouldnt the rotation be something like this for those without 4 set -> CS - 2xSS - 2xAS - 2xSS - repeat? If so, the speed for SS should be around 1.45 with raidbuffs, ISS and pathing.

Brazos · 02/26/11, 8:32 AM

I worry about our FS targets dying prematurely and leading to frustration with this new AoE mechanic. I was thinking of using a macro like Cochice has already provided simply because I don't want FS on the target that I am beating up.

I would prefer a FN that was coupled with FS like...casting FN on a target applies FS and ignites it and all other FS on nearby targets and having it share its cooldown with other shocks. Basically, just make FN an AoE shock for us.

Edit: Or even cooler, have CL spread FS!

Zynus · 02/26/11, 9:35 AM

ok, thank you

Jailbyrd · 02/26/11, 10:23 AM

just curious cause im new to feral, do we need the 26 point exp cap for raiding? or is my logic wrong from thinking as other melee classes?

DeathKnøøb · 02/26/11, 1:54 PM

I'm sorry i've got a few questions and hope not to ramble.

Is it viable for Duel Wield Frost to attempt for more haste/hit than is let on from your site stat weight?
From personal experience at the begining of the expansion when I stacked Haste>Crit as DW, I was pulling a few K more than I am now although i'm much more geared.
Can [KM] proc due to off hand?
Does haste>crit help the procs since Frost already has multiple auto-crit procs?
Thank you,

zahariel · 02/26/11, 2:34 PM

Is the new [Unheeded Warning] any good for combat? I know the old one was not that great because just white damage wasn't that strong, but now that it increases weapon damage does that make it better?

Lianhua · 02/26/11, 2:43 PM

Has anyone done the math on which trinket is better -[Tyrande's Favorite Doll] or [Fall of Mortality] ?

Gino85 · 02/26/11, 5:50 PM

I see on the pre Hard modes it shows Heart of Rage but question is as an Alch I have Volatile Alchemist stone. So which one is better to use?

Pivotstun · 02/26/11, 7:59 PM

Has there been done any testing as to how our combat ratings are valued while Blade Flurry is active? If not, would anyone be able to do so?
I'll break down my thoughts on the matter in category of every combat rating:

1. AP should be lowered slightly as it affects poison dmg, which is not transfered by BF.

2. Agi will only have it's EP lowered ever so slightly, seeing as AP from Agi affects poisons, which is not transfered by BF. This means that Agi should have it's EP lowered.

3. Crit will have the same value as the crits on every attack will get transfered. Rupture should not be used, and poisons is not affected by Crit Rating regardless.

4. Haste gets a 15% energy regen decrease, which means that the energy regeneration you gain from Haste will hold less of a value. While Haste increases the amount of poison proccs, BF does not transfer the dmg from Instant Poison and Deadly Poison. This means that Haste should have a lower EP when BF is active.

5. Hit rating is affected the same way as Haste, as more hits means more poison proccs. More hits also means more more proccs from Combat Potency. This proccs is not transfered through BF obviously, and cannot procc from BF dmg. However, the energy gain is not affected by the 15% energy penalty to having BF active, which makes the energy gained from Combat Potency somewhat superior to the Energy regen gained from Haste.

6. Mastery - Main Gauche will get all of it's dmg transfered, and is also affected by Combat Potency. Whether this is an upgrade or not is currently unkown to me personally.

7. Expertise - Affected precisely like Hit rating. Unkown how this change the EP of Expertise when BF is active.

A mathematic theory should clearly show the EP value of each combat rating, based around the EP of Attack Power (1).

Pivot

furyguy · 02/26/11, 10:16 PM

Jury still seems to be out on this. I understand that part of original theory of getting 27% hit was to get white hits on both hands for rage generation/stability. please correct me if I'm wrong here, just trying to get the basics. Now it seems since we wont use HS as much we don't need as much rage from white hits. Buuut, was it not also part of the 27% to get additional damage from the OH hits? I know when I switched from STR gems to all hit, and reforged for hit, my DPS went up a good bit. it may have just been more rage uptime, opinions? I keep commanding shout up all the time and never seemed rage starved when i had STR maxed. Just trying to figure out if i need to re-gem back to STR and reforge to Crit?