Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1676

frostystare · 02/27/11, 10:05 AM

I have the following trinkets:
[Stump of Time]
[Tendrils of Burrowing Dark]
[Witching Hourglass]
[Figurine - Jeweled Serpent]

Currently equipped is the Witching Hourglass and Stump of time. When I run this in Rawr, it strongly prefers Tendrils and the serpent over the other two and I cannot figure out why. Anyone have some ideas?

Also, what's a good haste/crit rating to shoot for in a raid setting? Since the patch, I've reforged quite a bit into haste since ignite munching has shown crit as less important to some extent. Anyone know an approximate value where this may fall off and crit becomes more important? I currently have 15% haste and 22.75% crit self buffed.

harrythered · 02/27/11, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Malicii

It's not significant, especially on single-target fights with no AoE-able adds. With 1 point, It's a passive 12rp/min, which is an extra FS every 2min40sec.

With AoE(Ie. Magmaw), assuming you're getting your fair share of the killing blows, its value increases a bit and can bring in a decent amount of rp. On the other hand, it's hard to avoid overcapping when you get so much rp coming in at once so a portion will most likely be wasted.

In any case, it's the best talent to takes points out of if you want something else.

Thx for the answer....i have 1 point in it at the moment and find in hc's that on occasions I am rune-capped so wondered if it would be better spent elsewhere....I'll move it now

thx again

Xenu is my Master · 02/27/11, 10:48 AM

I have a question concerning aoe dmg of the hunter speccs. I see more and more hunters having a SV-Specc for aoe heavy fights. My question is: Has anyone of you data backing up that SV does the most aoe dmg. In my own experience i felt BM with Worm and BW does alot more aoe Dmg. (Tried it mainly Magmaw)
I tested aoing at the 4 puppets that stand next to each other in Og and hat 2-3k higher dps with BM than with SV.

ulrich · 02/27/11, 11:29 AM

I recently went SMF.

At todays raid I noticed that when I have Battle Trance + Bloodsurge procs at the same time a slam will consume both.

Anyone else noticed this?

chendol · 02/27/11, 12:10 PM

Can I ask, does anyone have the stats on Unheeded Warning as a trink? How good is it actually and how well does it scale with our attacks such as Lava Lash, UE wind and Stormstrike?

Kathele · 02/27/11, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by effyTW

I have two questions about changes in 4.06.

2. Since the combat's mastery MG being changed, WP comes very close to IP on mainhand. And it is reasonable to choose WP in those encounters which require target swaps.

I just did some testing on poisons. (IP/DP vs WP/DP)
Testing setup was 2 runs of 30 mins on a (regular) training dummy
Character was naked except for weapons (2.6/1.4)
Both weapons enchanted with Hurricane

Run 1 was MH - Wound, OH - Deadly, time was 11:18:28 - 11:48:32 ((duration 30 mins 4 sec))
Damage Done: 2365624
Total DPS: 1306.5
2130 Melee swings 1377240
584 Deadly Poison 524392 (897.93 avg)
990 Wound Poison 338973 (342.39 avg)
117 Main Gauche 125019

Run 2 was MH - Instant, OH - Deadly, time was 11:50:09 - 12:20:18 ((duration 30 mins 9 sec))
Damage Done: 2368435
Total DPS:1304.6
2135 Melee Swings 1427880
584 Deadly Poison 506335 (867.01 avg)
618 Instant Poison 307597 (497.73 avg)
122 Main Gauche 126623

This would leave me to believe that WP/DP beats IP/DP. I would like if someone would run the same test with gear (exp, spell hit cap) on a raider's dummy, then we can compare. Also, If you had dual Landslide or Land/Hurr, that may also help.

For now, In the dual Hurricane situation, I would say WP/DP is better.

EDIT:

Ok, I just ran a second series of tests.
Testing setup was 2 runs of 10 mins on a (raider's) training dummy
Character was fully geared with 26 expertise, and spell hit capped (weapon speed:2.6/1.4)
Both weapons enchanted with Hurricane

Run 1 was MH - Wound, OH - Deadly, time was 12:49:15 - 12:59:21 ((duration 10 mins 6 sec))
Damage Done: 2053067
Total DPS: 3374.1
763 Melee swings 1094791
197 Deadly Poison 533213 (2706.66 avg)
393 Wound Poison 293249 (746.18 avg)
57 Main Gauche 131814

Run 2 was MH - Instant, OH - Deadly, time was 12:32:04 - 12:42:11 ((duration 10 mins 7 sec))
Damage Done: 1878116
Total DPS:3076.1
766 Melee Swings 1023085
194 Deadly Poison 476147 (2454.37 avg)
180 Instant Poison 257649 (1431.38 avg)
53 Main Gauche 121235

Here I am showing the same thing, Wound being better than IP. In both sets of test runs, IP had a few more chances to proc than WP due to melee strikes, yet in both cases, WP did more damage overall than IP.

iddqd84 · 02/27/11, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by ulrich

I recently went SMF.

At todays raid I noticed that when I have Battle Trance + Bloodsurge procs at the same time a slam will consume both.

Anyone else noticed this?

Yes.

4.0.6 corrected that bug only for Titan´s Grip where Battle Trance is not consumed by Bloodsurge-Use anymore, however, while being SMF the bug is still present!

deathmecanix · 02/27/11, 12:40 PM

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deathmecanix · 02/27/11, 12:41 PM

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deathmecanix · 02/27/11, 12:42 PM

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deathmecanix · 02/27/11, 12:43 PM

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deathmecanix · 02/27/11, 12:45 PM

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deathmecanix · 02/27/11, 12:45 PM

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deathmecanix · 02/27/11, 12:46 PM

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skyvan · 02/27/11, 1:24 PM

ok hi all first of all i feel noob and im confused lol

anyway my shamans not all that geared so i dont see how i could do these rain or chain spams i would run out of mana faster then ever atm i use a rotation,

Usually i go riptide,healing wave, healing wave,chain heal (generally on the riptide target to increase it), healing wave, healing wave, riptide repeat this usually get me doing 10k or more hps and is still quite conservative of mana because im not geared enough to spam surge or greater or rain.

Anyway here's my armoury could anyone please give me suggestions on changes i should make if im doing something wrong, at the moment im all for crit and haste not mastery my crit and haste are about even at around 1k rating and i like it there feels comfortable and i really dislike mastery lol.

Skyvan @ Thaurissan - Game - World of Warcraft

any suggestions are welcome thanks