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Old 03/17/11, 7:56 PM   #25561
vissio
 
Draenei Death Knight
 
Draenor (EU)
I just got a question.

is it useful to have 2 dk tanks in a 10M raid team?
I know they need the same loot but besides that, Tried to find something about it on other forums but nothing.

Tanx.

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Old 03/17/11, 8:16 PM   #25562
shadowboy813
Von Kaiser
 
Troll Rogue
 
Aggramar
Gouge as a combo point builder is a VERY moot point given that it has a 10 second cooldown. The consideration of its dps impact stops at that fact.

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Old 03/17/11, 10:59 PM   #25563
krdan
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Dwarf Warlock
 
Eonar (EU)
Originally Posted by angaroth View Post
Daellia asks an interesting question. Any time the scale factor of haste is < 56% of the scale factor of SP we should consider the old Wrath +SP glove enchant.
I don't know where Daellia got the scale factor but it seems to me that those are scale factor of intellect not spellpower, i just simulated with Warlock_Affliction_T11_372_PTR and i got normalized scale factor: 1.00 Spellpower 0.63130 Haste, while normalized at 1.00Int 0.7989 Spellpower 0.5044 Haste, so 50 haste enchant is valuable as ~31.57 spellpower, it should still be the best enchant for gloves.

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Old 03/18/11, 12:11 AM   #25564
angaroth
Piston Honda
 
Undead Warlock
 
Twisting Nether
Not confusing Int with SP at all. In the 359 BiS example we have .7679 for SP and .4201 for Haste which is 54.70% Clearly this is a miniscule difference but for all of the min-maxers out there it is still something that isn't listed in the BiS sets even when it might be.

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Old 03/18/11, 1:02 AM   #25565
Mihauwk
Banned
 
Mihauwk
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Blackrock
PVE DW Frost or 2H Unholy

For PVE it seems at ilvl 359 frost DW does more dps than 2H unholy.
However at ilvl 372 2H unholy does more dps than DW frost.
Or does 2H unholy generally does more damage than DW frost due to off hand hit miss?

At the current patch I heard that killing machine does not value as much.
What is the best talent build for pve frost DW for current patch?

For the next patch I heard that the spec priority will change for pve DW frost where haste will be more important than mastery and crit, is this true?

Thank you

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Old 03/18/11, 3:18 AM   #25566
Thorgore
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Blackhand (EU)
Just a question: I recognized that most of the 359 setups use Incineratus. Regarding the fact that Incineratus (hm) isn't best in slot shouldn't we use Stormwake in the non hardmode BiS setup (either using Wildfire + Bracers of the Bronze Dragonflight or Firelash + Dark Pool)?

I would also change Inscription into BS respectively JC because it allows easier reforging/regemming. Alchemy could also be considered in the 359 environment only due to the Alchemist trinket (int, haste both static) and the flask effect but for 372 the trinket sure scales pretty bad.

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Old 03/18/11, 3:36 AM   #25567
smigl
 
Undead Rogue
 
The Maelstrom (EU)
I have major problems with epic weapons, they just dont drop i dont care if its dagger,sword,axe,fist what ever drops ili change spec, but nothing yet so i am a bit desperate and i was thinking

should i bother to get

Vicious Gladiator's Shiv - Item - World of Warcraft
Vicious Gladiator's Quickblade - Item - World of Warcraft

over my blue heroic weapons? scaleslicer goes arround 25k on my server so thats not an option...

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Old 03/18/11, 5:09 AM   #25568
feelaSmeazy
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feelaSmeazy
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
No WoW Account (EU)
L'importanza del Web per la tua attivit�*

Spam removed

Last edited by Wizeowel : 03/18/11 at 9:10 AM.

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Old 03/18/11, 6:38 AM   #25569
Yeto
 
Dwarf Paladin
 
Gilneas (EU)
Glyphes

Hi Guys,

I have a question regarding Glyphs unter my very own circumstances. I hope you can help me with this issue.

I was just lucky enough to pick up Akirus 372 at our first kill, as this weapon gives Expertise itself and due to racial (3 exp), i'm ending up with to much exp.

Without reforging I am overcapped (750 rating + 3 exp racial = ~840 rating). If I completly reforge, I end up at 450 rating / 540 rating (with racial). This is all counted without GoSoT. And here is the question:

Is it worth, replacing SoT Glyphe with CS?

Winning:

- 5% crit to CS

Losing:

- 300 rating in sec. stats in reforging

So ... I'm not really sure. I do think 300 rating are better dos than 5% crit to CS. What do you think?

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Old 03/18/11, 10:56 AM   #25570
Sadism
 
Blood Elf Priest
 
Cairne
Now I'm honestly not trolling nor trying to be a dick but do you honestly think you're qualified to run this thread? :/

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Old 03/18/11, 11:15 AM   #25571
Nemnissis
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Kul Tiras (EU)
T11 4-set bonus

sinds everyone here knows what a T11 4-set bonus is, could you tell me please.

Sugestions towards gear are apreciated.

Nemnissis @ Kul Tiras - Game - World of Warcraft

Thanks

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Old 03/18/11, 1:23 PM   #25572
iron doom
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Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Mazrigos (EU)
pretty good I need to say
but I would rather use BM

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Old 03/18/11, 1:44 PM   #25573
fok
Glass Joe
 
Human Mage
 
Черный Шрам (EU)
What rotation are best on dark phase of Maloriak?

1)Flamestrike every 8 sec + singe-target rotation with spreading ignites/lb?
2)Spam Flamestrike (with mage armor?) + keep LB up?
3)Something else?
How about combuction(only abberations/only dark phase/by situation) How about LB on adds at last phase?
logs here
Maloriak is only one boss which creates problems for me.

Last edited by fok : 03/18/11 at 1:59 PM.

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Old 03/18/11, 2:06 PM   #25574
Thorgore
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Blackhand (EU)
[Incineratus]
[Incineratus]
[Incineratus]

[Stormwake the Tempest's Reach]
[Stormwake, the Tempest's Reach]
[Stormwake, the Tempest's Reach]

add the (heroic) after the item name and everything is fine ^^.

PS: Trial and error... sometimes the item is not found, just use preview item again
PPS: Ok, seems to be more complex. Some items are directly linked to their HM versions whereas others (like stormwake) are not. If you want to use the later ones as HM version add " ( ". It looks like the background implementation then looks for other versions. You can use (heroic) (hardmode) (whatever) and it will look the version up. I haven't found how to link the items directly linked to the HM ones to their normal ones yet.

Conclusion: using the item id works for 100%.

Last edited by Thorgore : 03/18/11 at 2:21 PM.

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Old 03/18/11, 3:19 PM   #25575
Dîger
 
Dîger
Human Warrior
 
Non-US/EU Server (EU)
hey guys, unfortunately i cant create a new thread thus having to post here.
my question is with regards to ignite munching.
i dont really get the entire mechanic.
say for instance we have the following scenario: at second 0 something crits for 10k and we dont have ignite on the npc, then 40% so 4k in this case wander into the ignite pool. now we got 4k which tick evenly spread at second 2 and 4 if nothing happens afterwards. Now lets say at second 1 we have another crit with 10k. what exactly happens now?
Do another 4k wander into the ignite pool? due to the new dot mechanic shipped with cata the next tick happens at second 2 and ignite now lasts until second 6. But whats the number which it ticks for? Do the other 4k from second 1 already affect the tick from ignite at second 2 or not? or does the tick at second 2 happen with 2k as nothing would have happend and the other 2k in the pool add to the 4k from second 1, thus now having 6k which spread evenly to tick for 3k at second 4 and 6?
another possibility would be that the dot at second 2 is already affected by the crit from second 1 so we have 8k divided by 3 ticks hence 2.666k at second 2 4 and 6.
now to make it more complicated^^ some pyro crits for 100k at second 1.5. shouldnt this crit add 40k to the ignitepool thus the dot ticks for 16k at second 2 4 and 6?

PS: ok differently put; why does this
- Ignite must be below 4s in current duration to accept any new refresh events.
follow from the new DOT refresh mechanic? or in other words: why does the crit adds to the ignite pool if the duration is less than 4sec but not if its between 4 and 6 seconds left. couldnt u just say add the crit amout to the pool as well?

Last edited by Dîger : 03/18/11 at 5:25 PM.

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