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Old 03/20/11, 7:36 PM   #25606
Zeru369
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Azuremyst (EU)
I think that shaman stats have become a little too situational in many fights to be rated as easily as in wotlk. I have no numbers to back my thoughts up, and would love it if people could prove me right or wrong.

I thinkeach stat of mastery, haste and crit adds something to shaman healing, but none can be said to be better than the other so generally anymore. In my view, mastery is only useful when people are at low health, and with good hots, or fast heals this may not happen alot, but gives good mana efficiency to spells. Haste makes for fast heals, which are useful but are not as needed as in wotlk, as people do not seem to drop dead quite so fast, it also gives better hps, but lower mana efficiency. Crit gives some mana back, and bigger heals, both very useful, but because there is no controlling when these occur, the stat itself can vary in usefulness from heal to heal. I personally think that depending on raid set up, or playstyle, different combinations of these would be good. I believe this would be best as no single stat can fit every situation you see in raiding.

For example, I really like haste, I like faster heals, so I can move when needed and still get a heal off, or catch people who are dropping with more mana efficient heals than HS. However this costs too much mana to do on some fights, and I am currently trying out more crit and spirit in combination to high haste, to try and find that balance for me.

Basically I think that haste, mastery, and crit all have different uses now, and fall into their own niches, so I would say utilize them all for the best outcome.

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Old 03/20/11, 11:26 PM   #25607
Naus
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Bleeding Hollow
Yeah I personally have my Raise Dead on - and Death Pact on =, now it seems strange but I have a razor naga so its quite easy to hit.

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Old 03/21/11, 3:47 AM   #25608
Valtiel
Don Flamenco
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Darksorrow (EU)
Originally Posted by Shha View Post
The mastery nerf for fury IS actually a scaling buff. Not a huge one but still visible. I havent seen any word of reverting the MS etc coefficient - care to link source (on PTR they seem to still be higher as well).
I may be missing something, but with the RB 20% increase gone, I don't see how the mastery nerf is a scaling buff. We simply lost 6 mastery points, nothing else changed.

12 weeks without a Sigil of the Vengeful Heart drop and counting.

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Old 03/21/11, 7:24 AM   #25609
Chubbs8
Glass Joe
 
Goblin Death Knight
 
Boulderfist
Originally Posted by Naus View Post
Yeah I personally have my Raise Dead on - and Death Pact on =, now it seems strange but I have a razor naga so its quite easy to hit.
I just actually bought this mouse, it will be here Tuesday. How do you like it? Anything special to note?

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Old 03/21/11, 8:28 AM   #25610
Naus
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Bleeding Hollow
Originally Posted by Chubbs8 View Post
I just actually bought this mouse, it will be here Tuesday. How do you like it? Anything special to note?
Its really nice, feels really good on the hand. What I do is I use 1-6 (I rest my hands over 2,3,4) and use my thumb to press 7-= on the mouse, it takes a while to get used to it but it opens up a bit of bindings.

Now we should probably get back on topic as this is a Tanking forum not a mouse forum :p

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Old 03/21/11, 2:13 PM   #25611
smallrabbit
Glass Joe
 
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Worgen Druid
 
Eredar (EU)
Originally Posted by Pyrates View Post
Try

/target [@focus]
/click ActionbuttonXYZ
/targetlasttarget
thanks, works

focus cast key is not my favourite sort, because all my common buttons are already with some actions with shift+alt (and i dont usw ctrl)

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Old 03/21/11, 2:32 PM   #25612
dorspriest
 
Night Elf Priest
 
Mok'Nathal
class mechanics> druids>[Feral Bear]

all the imformation I have read is good for you if you are a high level druid.I am a very new druid level 46 [feral druid]. i have heard so many people tell me that i need to change my gear.I am getting so confused as to what I need for my gear.Please someone give me something I can use for my tanking! still trying to learn the druid toon and still very much confused. any help will be greatly appreciated.

thank you for your time. Dorspriest

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Old 03/21/11, 4:29 PM   #25613
mendenbarr
Piston Honda
 
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Orc Death Knight
 
Zul'Jin
How much unbuffed haste do you have Mericet? And are you a goblin?

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Old 03/21/11, 7:09 PM   #25614
 LuvRugby
Glass Joe
 
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Human Death Knight
 
Stormrage
Thank you for the updated info to all of you!

I am sure all of us appreciate all you do to further our class knowledge, but sometimes I dont think we tell you and the others how much we do. So I wanted to say thank you for the update and a great job as always.

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Old 03/21/11, 7:27 PM   #25615
Subutex
Glass Joe
 
Human Warrior
 
Twilight's Hammer (EU)
Originally Posted by Runtime View Post
The best thing to do is run a SimulationCraft with your current gear and have it calculate the stat weights for relative stats. Then if Str is 1 point and crit is >.50 then it would be more beneficial to take the socket bonus. if its <.50 its not worth it.
Thank you for your help!

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Old 03/21/11, 8:11 PM   #25616
thecodester
Glass Joe
 
Troll Rogue
 
Darkspear
Thank you

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Old 03/22/11, 12:27 AM   #25617
Grulk
 
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Dwarf Shaman
 
Alexstrasza
FS_UEBuff on Rotation problem

Well... i was thinking about the rotation and that is problaby something that changes a lot for me, i mean i was raiding The Bastion of Twilight and there i got a little MAD, sad about my guild. So i start to pay attention on the next boss, in case Valiona and Theralion and i got best DPS there and maybe cause i got the right rotation. Should i use FS with UE when its up? Can i use ES after a UE? Whats the best thing on this rotation?

All this "rotation problem" is on UE and FS or ES

I was using FS_UE Buff - ES when UE is on CD - UE and then use ES again - After when is back UE i hit with FS Buff again
(Here basically alternate UE with FS buff first and ES after)

PS: Im posting just cause i didn't get this yet and after read some threads this just make me more confused about this. I accept any hint or something like that on my stats or gear and sure... on my rotation.


Already thanking for all,
Grulk.

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Old 03/22/11, 3:02 AM   #25618
Naturtok
Glass Joe
 
Troll Shaman
 
Fenris
Hey I have a sort of off-topic question here. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there some patch or hotfix that removed the internal cd from windfury weapon procs? I could have sworn there was, but on the first page it says there's still one. Unless they added it back in, cus I noticed that on the first page it's a 3 second cd, and if my memory serves me well, it used to be 4 second cd. I dunno, was just wondering if there was this change that I missed, cus I try to keep track of every hotfix and such, but the removal of the 2minute shared cd on both Elementals got past me, so I wouldn't be surprised if I missed this too.

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Old 03/22/11, 3:19 AM   #25619
Vakki
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Frostwolf (EU)
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Last edited by Vakki : 03/22/11 at 3:30 AM.

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Old 03/22/11, 5:15 AM   #25620
toprosters
Banned
 
Orc Rogue
 
Jaedenar (EU)
Congrats guys.

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