Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1717

Ariadnè · 03/31/11, 11:22 PM

nice work mate..I'm taking an alt as hunter.. I dont play much PVP so far.. but I want to play from now.. Is marksman a better choice or survival?

KroLeXz · 03/31/11, 11:43 PM

getting batter results on target dummy stacking haste....as oppose to stacking mastery.

planrawsto · 04/01/11, 12:30 AM

I'm having a bit of trouble with crit/mastery and reforging. Here's my toon, for reference:

Jep @ Greymane - Game - World of Warcraft

Every time I've been heavy on crit and a bit lower on mastery I seem to regret it. Before I got my heroic tier chest piece I was sitting at 20% crit and 15.3% mastery. Now you see the difference. Any thoughts? (I'll take suggestions in other areas as well, if needed... but I think I have things fairly on par, right? :S)

Edit: Yes, I'll get the chest enchanted tomorrow.

ryah98 · 04/01/11, 3:24 AM

Popping mirror images before I attacked the vile swills worked much better than I anticipated. However, I would like to add that going invisible before your images run out may be a good idea especially if you were able to spread an especially juicy combustion. woot.

Finamenon · 04/01/11, 4:05 AM

I'm not really sure if this is the place for this question, but I have a question about use of cooldowns during heroic fights. During the burn phase should I be using all my cooldowns? Such as AP, Mana Gem, JC Trinket, arcane torrent, mirror images, fire orb.. or should I stagger them over time?

aranthar · 04/01/11, 5:10 AM

Originally Posted by Finamenon

I'm not really sure if this is the place for this question, but I have a question about use of cooldowns during heroic fights. During the burn phase should I be using all my cooldowns? Such as AP, Mana Gem, JC Trinket, arcane torrent, mirror images, fire orb.. or should I stagger them over time?

I would say that it's best to pop all except flame orb at the same time(it will just be a waste of GCD).
The reason for that is because of the arcanemage mechanics. The more mana you have the more dmg you do and because of arcane power. Maybe it would be different if you had a disc priest putting PI on you to negate the 20%manacost increase but I doubt it. the 20% dmg buff is huge and with all cd's popped it would be a big amount of dps increase to have em popped at the same time.

Lewstherin · 04/01/11, 7:11 AM

Originally Posted by aranthar

I would say that it's best to pop all except flame orb at the same time(it will just be a waste of GCD).
The reason for that is because of the arcanemage mechanics. The more mana you have the more dmg you do and because of arcane power. Maybe it would be different if you had a disc priest putting PI on you to negate the 20%manacost increase but I doubt it. the 20% dmg buff is huge and with all cd's popped it would be a big amount of dps increase to have em popped at the same time.

As far as i know the PI and the AP didnt stack. If i remember well, you cant cast PI on a mage who got active AP, and if PI was cast frist the AP overwrite it.

Narwaana · 04/01/11, 7:11 AM

I cant realy see why SMF would have 2x lavaspine as "norm bis" when it have haste on it.

Imo both Soulblade (97 hit 97 mastery) and scimitar of the sirocco (111 crit 74 haste) is better.

Aint that right?

/Narw

gabbu · 04/01/11, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Narwaana

I cant realy see why SMF would have 2x lavaspine as "norm bis" when it have haste on it.

Imo both Soulblade (97 hit 97 mastery) and scimitar of the sirocco (111 crit 74 haste) is better.

Aint that right?

/Narw

I am guessing because Lava Spine have crit on it.

J� son · 04/01/11, 12:05 PM

Hello, I am a bit confused with the hole dodge vs parry situation, I have taken a look at the spreadsheet provided by kahalm and I think I may have gotten my character perfect for my current gear. However I really have no idea if I have done this right or not, as they say two heads are better than one, could anybody possible have a look at it for me. Armory Link

Sorry if I am breaking any forum rules.

jmgb4 · 04/01/11, 12:59 PM

Awesome threat.

frostmonger · 04/01/11, 1:07 PM

Originally Posted by rh8452

If you're playing 2H you'll be in unholy presence, so all you get out of imp FP is 4% RP generation, making it rather lackluster.

You can presence swap to aoe adds but chogall/omnotron adds tend to die quickly enough for the swap to/back to be a dps loss in my experience, especially since you're aoeing off of the boss.

If kiting in blood/unholy pres, epidemic is worthless so I tend to go with WoW Talent Calculator - Sigrie. if playing 2H. The butchery point makes up for some of the RP loss and 2/2 imp BT is (this patch) pretty much 15% more howling blasts. You won't be killing conclave adds if kiting and it's pretty much a wash on magmaw adds.

Ty for the correction on 2H. Been playing DW for too long and tunneled I suppose =/

LivingHitokiri · 04/01/11, 1:33 PM

Greetings,i have noticed the following issues? for quite long time but just recently decided to post about it ( i apologies if the same issue has been adressed in the past).
The thing is,when we get flat silenced by players,mobs we can still use our melee abillities ( tv,cs,judge etc.) but if we get counterspell while casting a heal for example all our abillities are getting locked , not only holy.
My question is, did Blizzard forgot to change the way how our abillities are treated (used to be holy) or it is intentional,and if it is the... why, since our melee abillities doesnt belong in the holy school anymore?.
Thanks in advance

ROMAD27 · 04/01/11, 1:52 PM

I've been struggling with this for a while and finally did some number crunching. I have heroic versions of both Pauldrons of the Great Ettin and Plated Fists of Provocation. I am thinking about swapping these out in favor of the 359 tier pieces. Using Redcape's spreadsheet, I show a 617dps increase when going to the 4pc. I have the engineering helm, and because of the poor itemization on the tier 359 helm, I would rather not swap that out (I'm already passed the point of reforgeable epxertise). If I swap out the engineering helm in favor of the 359 tier piece and keep the Pauldrons of the Great Ettin, I only get a 528 dps increase.

My question is this: Did I miss something? I'm a little surprised the 4pc is actually a dps increase when losing not 1, but 2 heroic pieces in the mix. Not only that, but the presently-regarded BiS shoulder item.

Most of my napkin math suggests keeping the engineering helm until I can get the 372 tier helm. At that point, I'll have a decision to make about engineering in general.

Looking for some educated input, thx.

aranthar · 04/01/11, 5:04 PM

Originally Posted by Lewstherin

As far as i know the PI and the AP didnt stack. If i remember well, you cant cast PI on a mage who got active AP, and if PI was cast frist the AP overwrite it.

anyone sure about this?