Hello,

I am starting to venture into the relm of pve healing with our second 10 man group and have some questions. Coming from a pvp play style on this thing is quite different. I do have some questions about talents and the best uses of my class.

Talent questions:
Natures bounty. My guild members keep telling me to keep taking this talent. But I cant find a high end raiding druid that took it and oviously the spec here didn't take it. What is the big argument against it? They keep telling mme tto get rid of empowered touch and to put them in natures bounty and not take NS and put that in natures bounty as well.there argument is that it is better to just refresh lifebloom with another LB as it is cheaper but again I am not finding anything to support their argument.

Moonglow vs furor. Everyone here seems to like moonglow but in pvp everyone likes furor for ovious reasons. I have also read that furor is better than moonglow on a mathaematical theorycraft simply due to 15% mana vs 9% more effecie t heals.

I'm strugling with deciding on bigger and better heals vs more efficent heals. E.g. taking the 2 points from efflorescence and puting them in blessing of the grove. Another example is maxing genisis and putting 2/3 in moonglow.I keep reading that this is really based off gear.

How much mana regin is really the sweet spot? Is there one?

As for raid utility what is bEst suited for my class? Raid healing? Tank healing? I guess my question is where am i most useful?

I took a look at this relative to an Argoloth 25 (ie Target Dummy) kill that I had in excel already for judging the relative impact of 4.1 on my 2h frost dps. Anyway, here are the general breakdowns I got for these two abilities. (Assuming 20% fewer frost strikes)

Active Time: 182 seconds
Glyphs: Obliterate/Howling Blast/Frost Strike
-Frost Strike
--Count: 59
--Total Damage: 977,209
--% of Damage: 31.6%
-Frost Fever
--Count: 61
--Total Damage: 159,366
--% of Damage: 5.1%

Glyphs: Obliterate/Howling Blast/Icy Touch
-Frost Strike
--Count: 47
--Total Damage: 775,113
--% of Damage: 26.7%
-Frost Fever
--Count: 61
--Total Damage: 191,239
--% of Damage: 6.5%

So overall, that would be a loss of ~162,000 damage (and roughly 200k based on my 4.1 estimates). This does not even include the loss of and average of 5 runic empowerment procs. The numbers for frost fever would certainly be slightly higher relative to this would it be a real fight where you have to move more than sidestepping every so often and moreso on AoE based fights, but it still doesn't quite outweigh 25% more frost strikes for general useage.

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This post is my bible for DK tanking, very nice Job.

I want to ask How about hit and Exp cap? I wans traveling in the Armory inspecting some good tanks that i know and i surprisingly note they don't have Hit and exp cap. (a good example is the main tank and GM of Paragon Sejta he have like 3% hit and 3 Exp)

Is an armory bug or is a magical elixir that cap you instantly?

In my guild our MT have like zero hit and 18 exp and you can continuously see some Heroic throws flying up head the boss... and the Enh shammy getting oneshot.

What i'm missing?.

Regards!

Thanks for the fast answer Feliska.

Oh i remember those days in vanilla, i was happy and i didn't know

I have no issue with initial aggro with my DK, i think because i always try to get close to hit&exp cap. I will try to reforge to other stats to lower a litter bit my hit and exp numbers and test it in Heroics Dungeons. But in my 10 man group i'm one of the interrupt, so i can't play too much with that stats.

If someone have another opinion i'll appreciate.

Regards

Hi.

I was wondering, how good the 4pc really is? Should RNG go that way, is trading a piece 359 tier gear for 372 heroic boss drop worth losing the 4pc bonus?

In the end, which is greater in terms of raw dps, the increased amounts TV from the 4pc or the stat gain from going 359 -> 372?

At the moment hardly any DK will ever have a problem with initial agro (or any type of agro, really^^) on a single target and you will more likely be tanking a single target.
With the next patch the problem with hit being needed for interrupts drops off and so you can focus on either avoidance or mastery even if you're raiding 10-man and are one of the interrupters.
In most cases a second player is able to interrupt if I miss (and I have to miss both interrupts [or strangulate is already on CD...] which will hardly ever happen). At least this is the case for my guild group. Except for Cho'Gall, where I had to kite and interrupt the adds solo there has never been a wipe due to my interrupt missing the target.

In my opinion you should focus on avoidance or mastery (and since I'm not the only one to prefer mastery, you should consider focusing on mastery ;D) - agro or interrupts should normally be not as much of a problem as your suvivability.

Greets

Seal of Truth: Fixed a tooltip error that stated swings at targets with Censure fully stacked dealt 9% weapon damage. They actually dealt 15% damage and the tooltip has been updated accordingly.

Having trouble using search to find the answer to this:

Resto, pve, trinket usage. Which two become the best combo:

1. Darkmoon Card: Tsunami - Item - World of Warcraft (Tsunami)
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hey there, i have a question:
i'm using simulationcraft, import, simulate, no problem but i want to put in my priolist and i wanna know how hit after 8% scales.
so i dont really know where i can see this in sim. i wanna work with the commands like "positive_scale_delta=1"

sorry for my english

I saw someone quote the Multi Target Fire DPS section of The Basics on the front page today, so I thought I'd start a discussion about how it should be updated. It says "LB three targets, blastwave and spam flamestrike." You end that at 5GCD's. I feel like a standard opener for Fire AoE should be Blastwave (to proc impact), LB, fireblast, flamestrike. Here I am at 4 GCD's with additional damage from fireblast and perhaps ignite from blastwave/flamestrike spread to more targets, and a good chance of a new impact from the flamestrike.

As a good rule of thumb, I would say that if the mobs would live long enough for me to use combustion, spread it, and have it go most its duration, then I should start to single target using impacts to spread ignite and pryo dot off a main target (until I do my next Blastwave, LB, fireblast). If the mobs would die before this is possible, continue to spam flamestrike. However, it is hard to describe a perfect fire mage aoe rotation due to maybe getting extra impact procs and high ignites you would want to spread.