[top]Secondary Stats

Haste is the main throughput secondary stat. It scales very well with all direct heals, but only on thresholds with hots. It comes with the side effect of negative mana regeneration, because you will burn you mana faster with more haste. At lv85 we need 128.057 rating for 1% haste.


Riptide duration with glyph: 21 sec

# of Ticks	Rating needed	Rating needed assuming WoA	Rating needed for goblins with WoA
8	915	261	130
9	2745	2005	1857
10	4576	3748	3582
11	6406	5491	?

Earthliving weapon duration: 12 sec

# of Ticks	Rating needed	Rating needed assuming WoA	Rating needed for goblin with WoA
5 ticks	1602	916	780
6 ticks	4805	3966	3798
7 ticks	8008	7017	6817

Unglyphed Riptide and Healing Rain (HR +1 initial tick, see SQ&A#103)

# of Ticks	Rating needed	Rating needed assuming WoA	Rating needed for goblin with WoA
6	?	610	475
7	?	3050	2892
8	?	5489	5307

Being a Troll, I've always considered going to Goblin, but someone pointed out that the Goblin tooltip reads "Cash in on a 1% increase to attack and casting speed."
Hence not a 1% increase in haste.
In that case, does that 1% Goblin cast speed contribute to our Riptide and HR ticks ?

Yes it does, at level 85 is account for 1% casting speed, or 1% Haste since we are maxed level or 128Haste rating if you prefer.

I can, as I am sure most here can confirm that the 1% for certain adds the ticks, I know this right now for certain because I have opted to gear for haste for this evenings Raid just to see how it does, and I have 9 ticks on my RT right now and 1890 haste I think it was when I last checked. It has therefore tipped me over the next threshold.

The racial is not included in the figure that you see on your character screen, in otherwise it will add the effect of 1% haste but not actually add 128 haste rating onto your profile.

Hope that clears it up for you.

IS it a good idea to drop 400 int for 400 haste if it brings you to the next haste cap of 2005?

Over the course of a boss encounter, which buff will yield me more benefits?

90 int or 90 crit rating?

Edit: As a resto shaman :p

I have a question regarding trinket replacement. Do you guys know what kind of uptime Crushing Weight has?

I'm currently using Hurricane and Crushing Weight - and I can tell that Hurricane does good, but I have no way to tell if Crushing Weight is (by looking at Recount).

The question is whether I should replace Crushing Weight with License to Slay or not. logic tells me that 20% haste procs should be better than 321 hit rating but I just don't know.

Int by far

Could we get an update to the guide? With the change to Strength of Soul there really is no reason to cast 2xHeal after a PW:S.

Thanks.

My Melee DPS team Captain (Fury Warrior), has done extensive testing and calculations, independently of you guys. He has determined Mastery to currently be worst stat to stack. He has also determined the Critical Strike conversion ratio to be too low, unfortunately.

The best overall performance is coming from reforging Mastery > Hit and if no mastery, then reforge Crit into Hit even. Leaving some Haste un-reforged to supplement high Hit, as it seems good to have extra Haste with the high Hit for even higher rps.

Crit is still better than Hit in raw percentage gains, the problem is the conversion ratio. For 90 Crit, you only get 0.50%, whereas for 90 Hit, you get 0.75% Hit. It's with the higher Hit and Haste, you increase number of white attacks and number which don't miss. This increases rps and also, the more white attacks which land means you will have white attacks crit more often, which boosts Flurry uptime, which boosts white attacks even more for more rage.

With all this extra rage flow, you can use HS far more often, and this is where the overall dps gain is coming from. Must note, he is in full 359 epic gear, no Heroic 372. So he has not been able to determine how higher gear levels may or may not affect his results. However, his model should remain stable up to about 20% Hit and 6% Haste, after which stack Crit and then Mastery last.

What's unknown, is if full 372 gear might allow for obtaining 20% Hit, 6% haste, and then still have enough reforging available to stack Mastery to fairly high levels without dropping crit below ~18%, how that might perform is unknown to us.

Want to post actual data to back that up?

Advocating reforges like that is generally more of the hit covering up poor play.

Hi,

I'm new, thought I think I had an acc here before... can't get access to it now.
Anyway, heres my newbie question:
Which weapon for level 33 cat is better
Armor Piercer
or
Viscous Hammer
To me, it looks like armor piercer is better, but is there a way to calculate actual difference between those two?

Is it true that Viscous Hammer is completely useless and I shouldn't not even look at it for cat?

ok thank god. he really fucked over my world for 2 seconds there. I was allready sitting up and down with sheets pulling my hair xp