Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1734

Darthruneis · 04/24/11, 5:20 AM

Anyone know if you can cancel a rooted Acquiring Target for Heroic Omontron? Haven't started on them yet, but figure that'd be a lifesaver if it works to cancel the ability entirely.

chacham15 · 04/24/11, 8:02 AM

Hi, Im relatively new to palladin healing and am trying to learn as much as possible. I have looked through the posts regaurding healing but there are still a few questions that I have unanswered.

1. What is the order of preferred stats (including spirit and int)?
2. Is there "minumum" amount of spirit that I should maintain (via gear, reforging, or gems)?
3. How do we regain mana?

Question 3 is of particular importance to me because I find that when I try to keep up with the other healers, I go OOM way faster than them because the only way I can match their output (upwards of 9k hps) is via spamming DL. I realize that HL is more mana efficient, but when I use it my healing output is terrible. Am I missing something?

sardinemaster · 04/24/11, 1:50 PM

Hey, thanks for a great guide.
I was looking for an addon, and I can't find it.
Here is what I would like to do:
I would like to change spec, and I would like my binds to change automatically to my skills.
This seems easy enough, when said like this, as it can be done with Bartender, simply dragging the skills to the binds that I already had on the other spec.
But in my case, I can't quite do that.
Here's why:
I play a mage, and I have my pet's freeze on MOUSEBOUTTON 4.
When I change spec to fire, my pet disappears and obiously so does my pet bar, but the bind stays on that skill (I'm currently using Bartender). So for me to change the bind, would mean I would have to change it back and forth everytime I change spec.
I know this is not a big issue and I might even be wrong as I'm talking from memory (I don't have WoW here, haven't played in a week), but if there is a way to reset everything whenever I change spec so that I can customize it the way I want and save it.
Sorry if this was confusing.
Thank you for your help.

nayeta · 04/24/11, 4:07 PM

yo dk tanks, I'm having a quick question. What tps should a blood dk tank do in gears variating between 359 and 372 gear? I read on the mainpage that tot's should be saved for dps if manageable. However even with totx2 and mdx2 it's still hard to keep aggro.

thanks in advance

yanhero · 04/24/11, 10:38 PM

I'm Human, so does my sword exp racial make Fang of Twilight better than Crul'korak, the Lightning's Arc?

Edit:

This is my calculation:

Fang of Twilight mast EP = 132
Crul'korak haste EP = 165

So since the sword exp racial is worth 93.68 EP, I guess that makes Fang of Twilgiht better.

bdschuss · 04/25/11, 2:14 AM

So what are peoples feelings with the patch coming out and the change to Paly 4 piece to trigger off of holy shock?

I'm considering 4piece/breast plate of avenging flames. What are others thoughts on this?

shadostalker · 04/25/11, 3:18 AM

Originally Posted by yanhero

I'm Human, so does my sword exp racial make Fang of Twilight better than Crul'korak, the Lightning's Arc?

Edit:

This is my calculation:

Fang of Twilight mast EP = 132
Crul'korak haste EP = 165

So since the sword exp racial is worth 93.68 EP, I guess that makes Fang of Twilgiht better.

I would agree with you. Fang of Twilight is probably better. Also considering that the BIS weapon is the Stormwake sword off Al'akir.

Vakki · 04/25/11, 8:42 AM

This forum is obviously the worst i've ever read. So much fails in information and simcrafting - unbelieveable. Whoever created chardevs for some classes should change the game. Fail gems, fail items, fail reforging and fail priority list is the result.

Joevega · 04/25/11, 3:24 PM

with the xhanfes in 4.1 im gonna take one XD. would you mind posting that math? Me and a few others freehanded and ended up with 2202 using 149*3 - 2589

pahurs@doomhammer · 04/25/11, 5:26 PM

I have the rotation down and all, I'm just concerned about my gear, talents, gems, enchants, reforging and anything else. I'm not sure if I have it all right. I want to be able to put out the most dps I can with my gear. I'm also not sure about what to reforge in some situations. Here is a link to wowarmory for my character Pahurs @ Doomhammer - Game - World of Warcraft (I know right now I am in resto spec, but that shouldnt matter too much). Would someone just please look at my wowarmory and give me any feedback on what I need to adjust, such as talents, gems, enchants, reforging, and gear. Maybe link some good gear that I could use for now (Outside of raids). Any feedback would be MUCH appreciated, I could use any help I can get to maximize my DPS. Thanks.

nive · 04/25/11, 7:43 PM

What's going on after the patch? Since mastery is getting a nerf would RB still be ahead in priority over Slam procs as TG? Also is it now Crit > Haste > Hit > Mastery? I remember seeing some weights posted earlier that showed haste ahead of hit and mastery next patch :S.

Lightrender · 04/25/11, 7:44 PM

Originally Posted by bdschuss

So what are peoples feelings with the patch coming out and the change to Paly 4 piece to trigger off of holy shock?

I'm considering 4piece/breast plate of avenging flames. What are others thoughts on this?

The math has already been discussed. Since nothing is changing except for the four piece, go to post #480 and switch out 1620 spirit from Holy Radiance for 540 spirit from Holy Shock. I only get about 250-350 spirit per fight overall using the current 4p, but patch 4.1 will easily bring that up to 450-500. I'm sure haste fanbois will still prefer offpieces, but mathematically, if you value spirit higher than haste, and if you value crit at all, 4p is superior now and it will be superior in 4.1

Fivedkpminus · 04/25/11, 8:01 PM

Originally Posted by Lightrender

The math has already been discussed. Since nothing is changing except for the four piece, go to post #480 and switch out 1620 spirit from Holy Radiance for 540 spirit from Holy Shock. I only get about 250-350 spirit per fight overall using the current 4p, but patch 4.1 will easily bring that up to 450-500. I'm sure haste fanbois will still prefer offpieces, but mathematically, if you value spirit higher than haste, and if you value crit at all, 4p is superior now and it will be superior in 4.1

The main problem i believe is balancing your haste with the spirit it gives. The spirit could be pointless if you have no haste to pump it out with.
I've discussed the best possible 4 set application with another paladin on the MMO-champion forums (Using Mastery as 0.550) and using the throughput indicators in the first post of this thread.

Gloves, Shoulders, Helm and Leggings

I'd switch out the chest instead of gloves assuming the difference is 9 on the gloves

Maths stating that the offset chest is better than offsetting gloves.

Magmaw 25H chest
588.57 intellect
158.9 haste
163.761 spirit

Paladin T11
588.57 intellect
179.9 spirit
72.05 Haste
57.18 mastery

13.51 difference.

Glove Calcs - Link here = (Filinformation og download - GratisUpload.dk - Pala gear.ods)

Total Tier 11: 4929.40
Tier 11 and off set gloves: 4938.72

Gloves give a 9.32 item boost which is less than the chest obviously XD.

I'd recommend getting the 4 set while gearing everything else for haste + spirit as it does look good on paper. If it looks bad in practice then maybe haste and spirit offpieces are the way to go.
Only find out tomorrow

Malivar · 04/25/11, 8:41 PM

Mastery obviously isn't being nerfed. Base mastery is simply being lowered. (think of a linear equation. Now think of base mastery as the y-intercept. When the y-intercept is less it doesn't change the slope; i.e. the value of mastery in this case)

Now, onto the stat priorities. I have read that the priority will become Str > Hit to 8% > 26 Exp > Crit > Hit to 27% > Haste >= Mastery. All speculation though, credit to Landsoul. (he posted these stat weights on the official forums) As for Slam, I do not think it will be better than RB for TG; seeing as how it's only better than RB for SMF since it hits with both weapons. TG slam still hits with one weapon.

Edit: Of course this is all just inferences, so nothing is set in stone.

Deathwing · 04/26/11, 12:43 AM

Can you post links to landsoul's posts?