I was thinking about speccing into Chillblains just so i could drop my kiting spec and turn it into a tanking spec like I've wanted. But i'm not sure how much DPS i would loose if i didn't have improved Blood Tap because it does serve as a rune regeneration tool, basically just giving you a death rune. Can I get someone else's opinion on this?

Dang I knew my 24k DPS on dummies, was too good to be true
lol

It doesnt seem to be bug...
I have found it in Patch Notes:

I believe what he was referring to was that the runes are not depleting at all, no CD at all. I would suspect that F/U runes are working as intended, but the new Death Runes are not.

The difference between 4PC and off-set is actually not very large of a difference, and depending on your play style, you could get more or less out of the 4PC bonus. Now that 4.1 is here, I would imagine seeing more holy paladins in 4PC, but not all of them. It is still essentially the same spirit bonus, but now your returns from it should be more consistent. I'll be trying out the 4PC once I have it all, but I'm still going to let others get it before me, since it's not a huge upgrade. I imagine in 10M the 4PC (pre-4.1) was pretty inferior. Most of the discussion here is related to 25M heroic modes, so that's probably why you're seeing more of a difference. I don't know what you're talking about with divine favor being able to get 2 holy radiances in, there is a 30sec cd on radiance. But yes, most holy paladins are going to use throughput cds on holy radiance. Typically when you need to use holy radiance, it is the time that you most need healing output.

In 25M heroic, I don't really use holy light except as a filler spell (when there are no divine lights needed and holy shock is on cd). Healing breakdown for me (and most holy paladins in 25H content) is going to look more like Divine Light, Beacon, Radiance as the top three spells. Obviously 10M raiding is quite different to 25M, not to mention heroic vs. normal. You should be using WoG a lot more than LoD in 10M (from what I understand and logically deduce). With healing, take what you read with a grain of salt and do what works best for you and your guild.

I'm not sure who you consider the best holy paladins to be - but a lot of gear selection depends on int levels first and foremost and secondary stats, well, secondarily. I'd use a 372 item without spirit (reforged to spirit) that has a lot more stats overall than a 359 item that has 30 more spirit than the reforged piece.

I don't know a single fellow end-game paladin (I define endgame as the ability to kill Sinestra) who, pre 4.1 was using the 4pc tier 11 set. I don't know of any that have definitive plans to swap to the 4-pc post 4.1 spi changes. The amount of spirit isn't really worth much when compared to the loss of haste you incur by using the poorly itemized set pieces. The only worthwhile set piece at the moment in my opinion is the shoulders. Unless they significantly change mastery, the 4-pc set is inferior stat wise.

I'd argue that it was trash before 4.1 and even less important in 4.1 after the Divine Light mana reduction. It's just not worth dropping that many stats for the extra spirit you gain.

Straight aimless holy light spamming won't ever work unless damage is weak. You'll end up doing more divine light healing with probably 50% of the output of your DL in HL. Lots of people glyph/talent WoG - but arguably, if there are people taking damage, LoD is nearly always better unless you're trying to save someone from dying. A case could be made for rng efficiency, but that's a fairly weak case and generally a personal preference. Some people prefer more runspeed than rng and delayed holy power returns.

Things were very different with heroic modes. Once your entire raid is 372+, manas not nearly as bad. When everyone was undergeared, mana was more of an issue. I use holy light when DL is overkill or not necessary. If I can top someone off, or a tank, with HL, I'll use HL and be more mana efficient. It just depends on the damage going out. I'll use WoG as a clutch instant to save someone, otherwise I'll use my holy power on LoD. Eternal glory vs. PoJ is complete a personal preference issue. I've used both specs in progression depending greatly on the fight. Something like H Chimaron lends itself to WoG more whereas LoD shines on say, H Omnotron.

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It was changed on a hot-fix, larger shields cannot be overwritten by smaller ones.

Thanks a lot everyone for your input, I really appreciate it.

Lightrender's post seems to be very insightful on the issue of the 4-piece, thanks.

I love seeing that in the end, there isn't a cookie-cutter build/spec/itemization for us. IMO Blizzard did a good job, now if they only would make mastery competent... :P

coz 1 point in crit gives more % than 1 point in mastery

With the release of today's patch, I was wondering if it is still worth it as a fire mage to still reforge to haste, as opposed to crit now that the ignite munching has been lessened/eliminated/quickfixed by blizzard...(lol)

I know rawr was showing to reforge to haste because of the munches...has this changed?

Thank you all for any enlightenment

I figure hit will move up if anything because we got a buff to our auto attacks by 40%, so the question is, is it better now to get hit capped?

Making the new setup being Crit>Hit(27%)>Mastery>haste ?