OK sorry to say that this post will seem noobish since i have been away from Lock raiding for months and am not sure of new class mechanics and specs based on gear. Yes i know it's affliction or destro/demo but with current gear and sp i am only doing like 2k max dps....WTF??? My locks name is Xadarina on the Kilrogg server. I know the basics as far as what to take based on your spec...i.e Destro - Sp>Crit>Hit>Haste....Afflic - Hit>SP>Haste>Crit etc. Can anyone please check out my toon and spec and tell me where i may be screwing her up!!!! I would really appreciate the feedback from anyone that wants to give it the time. Sorry for being a noob and needing some help but this site is the shiz for info so figured I would give it a shot. Thanks in advance for any help!!!

For reference i use this spell rotation as of now with 3/13/55......Immo/Chaos/Corrup/CoA/Conflag/SB fill until 30% then Drain Soul...rinse and repeat. Aagain sorry for being a lock noob but the worst question to ask is the one you don't IMHO. Thanks all.


PS - Should i be afflic with current gear??? Would be happy to link armory tag but not sure how on these forums....too long away from coding and html

Seems complicated, once you get it down it works well. I got good results duplicating this, though you might want to mention the Blood Tap at the start. You worked a lot on this rotation, I can tell. I'll be trying this in my upcoming Ulduar raid sunday, it got as good results on the dummy as the 17/51/3 rotation with the dual icy touches for the deathrunes in the second half. Yours on the other hand has no wasted GCDs, I find myself waiting to start the second half of that rotation everytime, so we'll see I guess!

edit: After more testing, I'm liking this setup even more. The extra icy touches mean there is rarely if ever a wasted GCD, and my damage output once again has frost strike at 45-46% of my damage, melee at 18%, and Icy Touch at about 12% each. Thanks for doing the work to create this rotation!

To lazy to look up your armory, but you got some things wrong. First in terms of stats Hit > all until hit capped > SP > Haste > Crit for all specs. It is the weight of each stat that differs for the different specs.

Your rotation is completely wrong. You seem to be confusing the affliction and destruction rotation. Destruction is built around fire damage as there are a crap ton of fire damage talents in the destruction tree assuming you followed the standard deep destro build. Your starting rotation should then be:

CoD -> Immo -> Conflag (Backdraft proc) -> CB -> Inc -> Inc

Then its a matter of watching CDs and prioritizing spells during backdraft. Priority being:
1. Immolate if it needs to be refreshed
2. CB
3. Inc

There are two threads in this forum you should check out if you need more help on specs and rotations
PVE Raiding Compendium V3.1
Simulationcraft on post 3.1 specs

Thanks Enigma. I did read the other forums just thought maybe i missed something. This is a sad case of listening to ppl that THINK they know what they are doing since this build and rotation was from someone who thinks they are leet. I did not think they were even close but hey that is what elitist jerks and ppl that know what they are doing is for.

hi, just wanted to add the new hotfix for Lightning Overload its now 11/22/33%

Well I think it's gonna be something in this direction:
Increases your blockvalue by 300% for 15 sec.
So that all palas have to go for BlockV for being worth it -.-

Wowhead.com has all the information you need. Prospecting (not Fathoming ?) isnt influenced by gear or stats or what phase of the moon it is. It's random.

Edit: To back this up with a bit of anecdotal data. I've prospected on my DK JC character over 7000 stacks of ore. My data almost entirely matches with that of wowhead/thottbot. The only difference is that my monarch topaz drop rate is 5% higher than expected. Thats RNG for you i guess

Holdir has been hotfixed so he no longer breaks the rare cache after flash freeze if he has been killed.

Care of This blue post on one of the complaint threads.

We know that, that was a fix to prevent people who killed him in under 3 minutes but had him stay alive longer because he was channelling flash freeze from failing hard mode. What's being discussed is the erroneous awarding of hard mode loot / achievement to guilds who are killing him in 6-7 minutes which is now happening after this fix has been applied.

Its nothing fancy, and pretty cluttered.
But It does everything I want It to, you can't see too well but I use "NeedToKnow" to track all of my diseases and procs.

According to the provided information and long discussions (please keep in mind that I am just recently lvling druid), I have few impressions myself:
- Druid mainly heals with HoTs but still got few nice healing spells that might negate a decend damage
- As far as I can see there are pretty much all kind of tactics here but is there a specific reason why someone should go on Haste rather than Crit (through Int, CR) or HP (through Spirit and SP)?

I am doing pretty much all the healing in lets say mid-level instances (from around 40 to now, 63 lvl) and my impressions are that druid is rather not depended on Haste bonus. This is the reason I have also neglected CF as possibility (just waste of talent points there), however, might be wrong (never healed in raids or hc parties as all of you) but my typical impression can be concluded here:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?drui...4&version=9901

Most of you mentioned Innervate glyph but since Nourish seems the main healing spell due to fast cast time (besides the contantly active HoTs as Rejuv, WG and LB), I really do not see reason why you should have Innervate glyph at all.
In case of more total dmg on tank/party member, I can cast one HT if all HoTs are already present.

Up to now, I was able to heal all party even with huge amount of damage taken (as backup spell I have Tranq which really fixes situation when party is nearly killed). Mostly, there are pretty much DKs, pallys and ench shammy/warr as dps dealers as these levels (instances are pretty easy BF, ramps, UB, MT, SP). It seems that most helpful is WG spell and most of the total healing is from Regrowth (which will be replace by LB at lvl 64 suppose). I have no problems with mana at all (still I use Innervate when not on CD).

I guess in raids, hcs you are not able to use HT as possible spell due to cast time but still it might be pretty useful in case it has 2/2 Empowered Touch instead of 2/3 Revitalize.

However, I am not pretty sure but trying to level as fast as possible and check the situation myself. Any suggestions or hints will be much appreciatet. Thanks

Gentlemen,

I am new to PVP and I was wondering where shall I go.

Set-up is Retri Pala plus DK plus Diszi PVP. We just started and with about 90 games came out 30:70 loosing. I always end up face down first no matter what and the only way we won was when I prolonged my dying.

So question is - I am aiming for 800 resilience at the moment, I do understand that blessed resilience and therelike do not make sense in there any more with this amount of resilience. But my throughput sucks, if I am focus then only the pally shield keeps me alive for he couple of seconds that need my colleagues to take down the opponents healer and if they achive we usually win, if I die earlier and they start to get some damage we quickly die, with the exception of the DK which seem to be extremely resilient to dying even if not geared very well.

So where should I be going?

Thanks a lot.

Cheers

Arthurios

I just wanted to thank you for all the great information you have provided. I will be putting it to use as soon as I log on.

Thanks

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I just wanted to thank you for all the great information you have provided. I will be putting it to use as soon as I log on.

Nice boots I to am not in a high end raiding guild but would sure like to get my hands on thoughs boots : )

Yes I would have to agree, Enthorn has done sosme outstand work and Im sure many of us have gained from it. Thanks again.

With all the new changes and whatnot, what are the New BIS for feral cat then? I am trying to figure out what I should be going for.

Guys, what do u think about this spec to Ulduar?
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

I think a spec like this has been talked about before in older posts if you go back i think you will find it. I will look for it if i have time.

Update, Found some stuff about it on page 16 post 396 and page 21 post 511 may want to read them and look for follow up posts.

hey, culd use some helpo with my Retri paladin. he's lvl 80 now, but i have not played with him for some time now, n now i forgot hw to use him

Any one that can help me with rotaion, Tallents n glyphs?


The World of Warcraft Armory

Why don't just skill like this Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft We benefit from haste and our pets too.
So the Question is: Is the damage that 20 % haste does , equal to the damage that Wandering Plague does?

Does it take into account the armor penn changes?

Icy Talons doesn't stack with a totem that enhancement shamans bring. Also your build is missing ghoul..? So no, that spec doesn't seem any good.

That's true, thanks. I did spec into it yesterday and did some practice dummy tests, and I hardly get any procs at all.

On a bigger picture, I realized that "relative stat value" differs heavily depending on what gear you have. It is normally considered that haste > crit for TTW, but that is based on an assumption of close-to-BIS gear set. For me, crit is still > haste, and also mp5 seems to be a huge problem - Rawr thinks I'll get starved even in a raid-buffed environment.

Anyway, thanks for your help. Off to farm crit, int and mp5.

Start out by going to the paladin forums instead and post there.. this is the hunter forums mate.