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Old 05/16/09, 4:31 PM   #4376
Swindley
Piston Honda
 
Human Mage
 
Frostwhisper (EU)
Originally Posted by braindancer View Post
Anyway, thanks for your help. Off to farm crit, int and mp5.
I would strongly suggest avoiding mp5 even if you're mana starved. Intellect and spirit will serve you better. Intellect is a better mana regeneration stat than mp5 because of replenishment and evocation, and both give some crit as well.

Though I'd just suggest upgrading gear normally and not worry too much about mana regeneration at all. It will improve with higher itemlevel gear which has natural higher int levels. You'll also probably pick up some decent gear with spirit anyway. (tier gear and a few others)

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Old 05/16/09, 4:36 PM   #4377
Hippolyta
 
Dwarf Death Knight
 
Bloodscalp
Using the UP it ps bs bs ob fs fs ob it it ob fs fs fs rotation I've been using UA without blood tap, as it normally royally screws with an already tight rotation. So when UA is off cooldown it looks like this:

it ps bs bs ob fs fs ob it ua ob fs fs fs

The rotation in action:



I normally save deathchill for when UA and FC are up, and try to time it so I get at least one below 35% on bosses.

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Old 05/16/09, 5:30 PM   #4378
Longear
Banned
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Steamwheedle Cartel (EU)
hey, culd use some helpo with my Retri paladin. he's lvl 80 now, but i have not played with him for some time now, n now i forgot hw to use him

Any one that can help me with rotaion, Tallents n glyphs?

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Old 05/16/09, 7:43 PM   #4379
Malarkey
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Kalecgos
You could actually read this thread, or at least the first post in this thread. Heaven forbid you do some homework on your own!

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Old 05/16/09, 11:11 PM   #4380
Crazed
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Rogue
 
Auchindoun (EU)
Thank you for clearing that up for me Aldriana and Joigahdenn.

I'll stick to the gemming for agility, looking forward to having 4/5 Tier 8 and a decent amount of ArP, hopefully I can net most of the gear I want before 3.1.2 hits so I can have a taste of the current Armor Penetration too.

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Old 05/16/09, 11:15 PM   #4381
elduende
 
Undead Rogue
 
Terenas
hit rating

I wanna know how many hit rating i need to have for pvp cause i am missing alot of attacks an if u guy can give me some tips about what should i do when i duel resto druids

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Old 05/16/09, 11:40 PM   #4382
Higinia
Banned
 
Human Death Knight
 
Burning Blade
Are there any frost 2h dps macros for frost strike and obliterate?

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Old 05/16/09, 11:43 PM   #4383
 Darkside
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Kroot
Orc Death Knight
 
No WoW Account
Originally Posted by Higinia View Post
Are there any frost 2h dps macros for frost strike and obliterate?
What do you mean?

Three steps to a better EJB experience: Step One, Step Two, Step Three

And remember:
Originally Posted by Zeroblack View Post
The Ignore functionality doesn't work if you guys keep quoting him.

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Old 05/17/09, 12:00 AM   #4384
Chaggi
Von Kaiser
 
Human Rogue
 
Magtheridon
Originally Posted by elduende View Post
I wanna know how many hit rating i need to have for pvp cause i am missing alot of attacks an if u guy can give me some tips about what should i do when i duel resto druids
Proper spelling and sentence structure does help too.

You need 5% hit to not miss normally in PvP. Some classes have talents that raise this cap a bit, but the hard rule is 5%. Some people go higher, some people go lower. You should at the very least, be at 5%. That's around 164? Or 166? Hit rating. I don't remember exactly.

A Druid that's can roll HoTs is pretty much unkillable by a single Rogue. My suggestion is stack as many things as possible and pressure at proper times. I open up with Garrote, Mutilate, Rupture, Mutilate, SnD, and let my energy build up. And then CB Evis when low. I don't think there really is a set in stone strategy, but feel as you go.

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Old 05/17/09, 12:04 AM   #4385
Higinia
Banned
 
Human Death Knight
 
Burning Blade
frost 2h dps macros for putting my diseases up and then bsx2 and my obliterate / fs
my rotation goes
it ps bs bs obl fs fs obl it it obl fs fs fs

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Old 05/17/09, 1:02 AM   #4386
 Darkside
I find your lack of faith disturbing
 
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Kroot
Orc Death Knight
 
No WoW Account
Originally Posted by Higinia View Post
frost 2h dps macros for putting my diseases up and then bsx2 and my obliterate / fs
my rotation goes
it ps bs bs obl fs fs obl it it obl fs fs fs
Castsequence macros like the one you are requesting are a blight upon humanity that should be avoided at all costs. You will NEVER get the DPS from a ridgid macro that you will from a fluid, adaptable rotation.

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The Ignore functionality doesn't work if you guys keep quoting him.

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Old 05/17/09, 3:35 AM   #4387
phrosty89
 
Gnome Mage
 
Runetotem
Rawr broken

So...i downloaded rawr a few times, hoping this would fix over about a month and it didn't

Everytime I have downloaded and ran rawr, it lists naxx and sarth and maly gear as better than anytihng from ulduar, t.7.5 better than 8.5

I KNOW this is wrong, and I can't find any options to fix it, I have been thru every menu, updated items from armory, etc. Nothing works, checked the right buffs to

How can I fix this? Everyone says Rawr is awesome, its so great, use it to fix ur char.

I do and it sucks, it sucks bad. Maxdps.com is better.

I would like to actually try and use this program so any help is appreciated.

Ty
D

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Old 05/17/09, 4:19 AM   #4388
Astrylian
Rawr
 
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Night Elf Druid
 
Stormrage
Originally Posted by phrosty89 View Post
So...i downloaded rawr a few times, hoping this would fix over about a month and it didn't

Everytime I have downloaded and ran rawr, it lists naxx and sarth and maly gear as better than anytihng from ulduar, t.7.5 better than 8.5

I KNOW this is wrong, and I can't find any options to fix it, I have been thru every menu, updated items from armory, etc. Nothing works, checked the right buffs to

How can I fix this? Everyone says Rawr is awesome, its so great, use it to fix ur char.

I do and it sucks, it sucks bad. Maxdps.com is better.

I would like to actually try and use this program so any help is appreciated.

Ty
D
You're doing something drastically wrong. You'll also have to post your character file if you want us to tell you what you're doing wrong.

Rawr!

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Old 05/17/09, 4:30 AM   #4389
phrosty89
 
Gnome Mage
 
Runetotem
I figured i am doing something wrong lol. How do i post a character file? The xml thing if i save my char?

D

Last edited by phrosty89 : 05/17/09 at 4:39 AM.

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Old 05/17/09, 5:03 AM   #4390
Prodegy
 
Draenei Death Knight
 
Sylvanas (EU)
The nerf to ArmP for me personally is great , makes gearing for both specs much easier and more viable to swap depending on the fight, one issue im having atm is expertise between the two, if u try and gem your muti gear for expertise cap you get major issues in combat gear hitting 28-30 expertise maybe more if you where capped, been sitting at 16 expertise now so when i switch to combat then im capped which ironically isn't the spec i want to be capped. Probably with more interchangeable gear it wont be such a problem since the Bis gear doesnt need to gem expertise for mutilate.

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Old 05/17/09, 7:49 AM   #4391
Nathrezhim
Glass Joe
 
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Undead Death Knight
 
Teldrassil (EU)
Hey everyone,

thats the time when a long-time reader cuts in the discussion.
I've been reading Elitist Jerks for a long time but since patch 3.1 is online I've managed to get a lot of problems with my warrior, especially when it comes to arms. I've been leveling as a fury and I've been raiding as a fury but I never played arms in my whole lifetime at WoW, so maybe you can help me out.
I know that arms runs better when wielding a two-handed weapon but I prefer to dual wield (fury-habit ^^'), so my question is what hitcap and maybe what pros and contras are given if you run on DW arms or not.

Currently my equip is completely fury-like and I know I have to get sockets with ArP because ArP scales 0.1 points better then Str, if I'm right.
Here's the link to my current gear: World of Warcraft EU Armory Link

I'm untalented because I didn't play my warrior for about 2 months, so don't wonder.

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Old 05/17/09, 8:00 AM   #4392
nayeta
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Lightbringer (EU)
arp and agi

i was just wondering if when you don't use GT or Mjolnir (fury of the 5 flights and greatness instead) if it is worth stacking armP or should i stick to agi?

greetings

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Old 05/17/09, 8:16 AM   #4393
mdn
Von Kaiser
 
Goblin Rogue
 
Blackrock
Originally Posted by nayeta View Post
i was just wondering if when you don't use GT or Mjolnir (fury of the 5 flights and greatness instead) if it is worth stacking armP or should i stick to agi?

greetings
Look at a spreadsheet; but short answer, no.

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Old 05/17/09, 8:40 AM   #4394
nayeta
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Lightbringer (EU)
armP agi

no, not wrth stacking armP or: no, don't stack agi? lol

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Old 05/17/09, 8:57 AM   #4395
ReverendSin
Banned
 
Undead Warlock
 
Smolderthorn
Originally Posted by Metaknight View Post
However, your second point is a fallacy in blizzard eyes, Death Knights are "Epic, but equal", we're not going to be allowed to break general design intentions simply because we are a hero class, we are classified as a hybrid, and will be balanced accordingly as a hybrid
Which is lame IMO, there's nothing "epic" or "hero" about us, we're just another hybrid. Basically a ret paladin married with a warlock. Now mind you I stopped playing a year ago and only recently came back, I didn't get to play a death knight for the opening or first few months of WotLK, in fact I only hit 80 a few days before 3.1 came out. So there's probably something I missed there that the rest of you got to feel and enjoy, but the class doesn't feel any more amazing than any of the other classes. I ENJOY it more, the playstyle most certainly suits my nature more than the warlock or warrior I raided with previously, but I still don't feel anything really "special" about it.

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Old 05/17/09, 9:14 AM   #4396
hellord
Absolute Arms
 
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Orc Warrior
 
Hellscream (EU)
Originally Posted by Nathrezhim View Post
Hey everyone,

thats the time when a long-time reader cuts in the discussion.
I've been reading Elitist Jerks for a long time but since patch 3.1 is online I've managed to get a lot of problems with my warrior, especially when it comes to arms. I've been leveling as a fury and I've been raiding as a fury but I never played arms in my whole lifetime at WoW, so maybe you can help me out.
I know that arms runs better when wielding a two-handed weapon but I prefer to dual wield (fury-habit ^^'), so my question is what hitcap and maybe what pros and contras are given if you run on DW arms or not.

Currently my equip is completely fury-like and I know I have to get sockets with ArP because ArP scales 0.1 points better then Str, if I'm right.
Here's the link to my current gear: World of Warcraft EU Armory Link

I'm untalented because I didn't play my warrior for about 2 months, so don't wonder.
DW Arms is not viable.
To gem arp you need 30% arp and around 3k ap ungemmed, so you are lacking some gear still.

ArP Whore

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Old 05/17/09, 10:58 AM   #4397
Dealt
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Draenor
The epic and heroic part mostly involves a killer starting zone and quest-lines and skipping 55 levels.

edit: Replying to a deleted post I guess?

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Old 05/17/09, 11:07 AM   #4398
lavandyke
Glass Joe
 
Human Priest
 
Eredar (EU)
Originally Posted by Metaknight View Post
we are classified as a hybrid, and will be balanced accordingly as a hybrid
and here is the problem. blizz try to nerf our dps to be similar to the other hybrids. but on the other hand all dps-hybrids, even some pure dd's, have more raid-support then the dps-dk's (ok blood has two, but frost and unholy only has one). so if our dps get nerfed because we are - OMG - in the top of the meters for 3 or 4 bosses out of 14, then we are not competitive to other hybrids and
doomed to sit out.
edit: horn isn`t a real unique-support, cause you don`t need a special dps-dk (all dk`s are able to do so), all shamans have the buff and the most important thing: one enhancer and nobody cares about our stupid horn.

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Old 05/17/09, 11:55 AM   #4399
wonderjeff
Glass Joe
 
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Ner'zhul
I'm just starting to gear my freshly 80 rogue, who will be replacing my resto shaman as my main becuase I fell in love with the class.

Is there a good gearing guide you guys could recommend, something with a basic path of ideals to get before naxx?
If you could send me a private message that'd be great.

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Old 05/17/09, 12:20 PM   #4400
PawnedDaily
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Lightning's Blade
0/18/53?

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...31051335230351

I've followed this thread and haven't seen this build tested. Perhaps i missed it, but it seems at first glance that 3 points in unholy power would be worth more dps than soul leech & imp soul leech if your raid already has replenishment.

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