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Old 06/03/11, 3:39 PM   #26521
Durabull
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Dawnbringer
Trinket question:

[License to Slay] vs [Fury of Angerforge] for SMF?

I swap them around frequently, and the main thing that I dislike about FoA is that it takes a long time to get to 5 stacks, and thus I don't get the full benefit of using it with Deathwish. Typically only about half of the duration of the +2k str use on it is during Deathwish, because my [Heart of Rage] pops immediately in a fight, and best dps is to basically pre pot, hit the boss with a heroic throw for a sunder, then do a BT. Usually HoR will proc off those first few white attacks or that bloodthirst, and then I pop DW/Reck/CS etc and go through my burn cycle. Technically, if you take the uptime of LtS of the full 380 str vs the short uptime of the FoA buff, and average them out, LtS is a bit more str, but obviously FoA is better for burst.

I've also noticed that the cooldown on FoA tends to be about 30-40 seconds off the other cooldowns (up sooner) and I know that on the 2nd round of cooldowns, it tends to be up and ready long before DW. So, should I take my HoR off or something to reset the ICD a certain amount of time before the fight? I happen to also be raid leader so I can actually pull this off and delay the pull until it's ideal lol. And if so, are there any addons that can track trinket ICD's accurately? I know Need To Know used to in Wrath, does it still work in Cata for this purpose?

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Old 06/03/11, 5:31 PM   #26522
aztdaniel
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Kel'Thuzad
Originally Posted by Lurama View Post
I've found it to be particularly effective to drop a flame strike and then just keep an ABx4 stack up and use Arcane Explosion. I can normally get 3-4 AE in before having to refresh the AB buff. If you cannot get in close enough or threat is an issue then yes, Flame Strike and blizzard.
Lurama, do you prefer fire or arcane? I love Frost, it's just not viable for raiding. I am giving fire a try on my mage, Effreeze on Kel'Thuzad. When I played during Wrath it was my first go as a mage and I did arcane and enjoyed it, but I wanted to give Fire ago since currently I play a Destro lock and Fire is the expertise there. Fire is fun as a mage, but it seems like I'm either not geared right, OR my rotation is off as I don't have much burst damage, I can do 10k to 11k on heroic bosses, but it has to build up.

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Old 06/04/11, 2:44 AM   #26523
Frostedblaze
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Thunderhorn
I'm currently waiting for one last piece of gear before I start raiding on my druid. Once I get this piece of gear, my haste rating will be 70 haste below the 2005 haste breakpoint. I plan on raiding in a 10 man raid (and I will have the 5% haste buff).

My question is, how important is that 2005 haste breakpoint? Would it be worthwhile for me to switch out 4 +40 Int gems, and replace them with +20 Haste, +20 Int?

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Old 06/04/11, 7:36 PM   #26524
demitri
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Aerie Peak
i was wondering if i can get some help from you guys with my lock... i cant seem to push past 15k dps in destro


also i think i gimped myself.. was using glyph of inncinerate instead of immolate :S


Di @ Aerie Peak - Game - World of Warcraft <- is my toon

Last edited by demitri : 06/04/11 at 8:28 PM. Reason: addition

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Old 06/05/11, 2:48 PM   #26525
Chingiskhan
 
Draenei Shaman
 
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Llane
To build the perfect Restro Shaman

I am in seach of the best of the best. I do not get to play much as my schedule does not allow me to do but a few runs. Thus my gear is not the best in the world. I have no real ideal on all gear, stats as well as my tree. I was told to see this site so I could get a feel what works. I have read what was recommended on the first page. If this is true then I will clean and rearrange my specs. I just need some guidance in this field. Thank you for your time. Chingiskhan.

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Old 06/05/11, 4:30 PM   #26526
jsports110
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Death Knight
 
Silvermoon
will i get a big difference between 2x gurubashi punishers? i am currently using jekliks smasher for frost dps but im not sure if i should switch over or if it will make a big enough difference to impact it. i mostly just do trolls but i wanna start raiding soon n my ilevel is 352

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Old 06/05/11, 6:44 PM   #26527
SuperficialSI
Glass Joe
 
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Tauren Druid
 
Illidan
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft - is currently the best 25 man raiding spec. Only use this spec if you are not a dispeller for your guild because it does NOT have a point in Nature's Cure.

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft - said in the guide is a very good idea if you have alot of mana when done with a fight in a 25 man or 10 man. This would be a better 25 man spec because it does not spec into Nature's Cure. So dont use this spec if your a dispeller for your guild.

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft - is currently the best 10 man spec. Has a point in Nature's Cure and Nature's Cure. I would use a talent in Nature's Cure because in 10 mans, it is crucial that everyone lives, so use NC as a emergency. If you dont want Nature's Swiftness, put it in Living Seed.

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Old 06/05/11, 6:53 PM   #26528
Daisil
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Pandaren Monk
 
Illidan
Edit out. misplaced

Last edited by Daisil : 06/05/11 at 7:02 PM. Reason: Editing out

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Old 06/05/11, 7:06 PM   #26529
SuperficialSI
Glass Joe
 
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Tauren Druid
 
Illidan
i use living seed beacuse i am doing some significant tank healing.....also i really dont like nature's swiftness. The CD on it makes it rather pointless in a 25m

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Old 06/06/11, 4:06 AM   #26530
noremac13
Glass Joe
 
Undead Mage
 
Mal'Ganis
Hi, I have been having some trouble figuring out proper stat weightings for my mage. I read the section on Rawr and SimCraft and it didn't really help me out figuring out my problem.

My armory is here: Raddles @ Mal'Ganis - Game - World of Warcraft if you wish to import and try for yourself.

Basically, Rawr is giving me one set of values while SimCraft is giving me a completely different set of values. I have had several people import and run the sims on my character and came up with similar results even using different versions of the programs.

Using SimCraft (410-8) I come up with:
Int - 3.11
SP - 2.38
Hit - 2.26
Crit - 1.40
Mastery - 1.07
Haste - 0.65

And Rawr (4.1.5.1) I come up with:
Int - 2.69
SP - 2.28
Hit - 2.15
Haste - 1.2
Crit - 1.16
Mastery - 0.99

Other people have also confirmed a low haste/high mastery value with SimC and high haste/low mastery value with Rawr. After I hit 2000 haste I knew there was no way that haste was my best stat so I can't figure out what to do now. I don't know if there is a setting I am not checking on one of the applications or maybe it has something to do with the fact that I don't have 4P-T11 but I am at a loss here.

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Old 06/06/11, 5:41 AM   #26531
Pjaddnave
Glass Joe
 
Goblin Rogue
 
Aggramar (EU)
Thanks sp00n, ill try the first one out 1st!

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Old 06/06/11, 7:27 AM   #26532
netsach
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Gnome Warlock
 
Dalaran (EU)
This meta/doomguard question raises the question about meta tooltip wording. Should it be read like (note the parenthesis) :
1) " ( Increases the damage done by your demon servants ) and ( damage you deal while transformed into a demon by 16%)."
or like
2) " ( Increases the damage done by your demon servants and damage you deal ) while transformed into a demon by 16%."

ultrajustin tested it and stated it works like 1) so there's no discussion on this.
But i hope they rewrite the tooltip so there's no hesitation on the interpretation.
To be honest i always poped my guardian while on meta, because it felt more like 2) wording to me.
So many thanks for pointing it out !

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Old 06/06/11, 10:17 AM   #26533
FRR
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Akama
Has anyone tried using Frozen power on caster mainhand for enhanc DPS?

My account has expired and I still don't know how to sim.

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Old 06/06/11, 1:11 PM   #26534
Levizan
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Priest
 
Nagrand (EU)
Great thread, helped me a LOT!

Would like to say something real quick, the set of gear from Valor Points: Mercurial (Example: Mercurial Legwraps - Item - World of Warcraft

Are Really good if you have a set of 4 to increase spirit by 540! Now with new patch, it lasts lifetime.

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Old 06/06/11, 1:21 PM   #26535
Prez1
 
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Human Rogue
 
No WoW Account (EU)
I've been using Mr Robot to tweak my gear since playing a Ret when I started this Paladin. Recently, I have spec'd into Protection and geared myself up appropriately for now. For the past few weeks, I have been doing well in the dungeons holding agro and receiving complements at the finish. I've screwed up a couple times but hey, that's a learning experience =).

Anyways, I have a concern with my melee hit at 3.56% (spell is at 12.01%). If I am understanding the first page correctly, should I be concentrating on getting this up to 8%? If so, why didn't Mr. Robot take this into account when I 'optimized'?

I do not raid, and play mostly in normal dungeons for now until I feel confident enough to try Heroic.

Thanks!!

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