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Old 06/15/11, 11:52 AM   #26611
Zakath
Von Kaiser
 
Human Warrior
 
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Arathi (EU)
Originally Posted by Kalpana View Post
For prot, is it a good idea to reforge strength for anything at all? Most tanking items already have mastery, but considering it's a mostly useless stat, is there anything that, if we can, we should reforge strength into?
Well, I wouldn't do it. Str is always good for more threat and I'm almost certain it contributes to your parry % (don't quote me on that though).

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Old 06/15/11, 12:16 PM   #26612
Gerya
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Warrior
 
Silvermoon (EU)
Originally Posted by Kalpana View Post
For prot, is it a good idea to reforge strength for anything at all? Most tanking items already have mastery, but considering it's a mostly useless stat, is there anything that, if we can, we should reforge strength into?
Strength is a primary stat, which you can't reforge.

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Old 06/15/11, 12:22 PM   #26613
Copaman
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Hydraxis
Originally Posted by Nfariessence View Post
Warlocks don't regen mana in combat. The only classes that allow spirit modified mana regen while in combat are healing specs (Resto Druids/Shaman, Holy Paladins/Priests, Disc Priests). Other classes can get mana regen while in combat (e.g. Mage Armor), but those are not modified by spirit.

So no, it's not more beneficial.
Ah. Learn something every day

Thanks!

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Old 06/15/11, 2:28 PM   #26614
Tyrian
Bald Bull
 
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Human Mage
 
Frostmourne
Don't know if this intended
What Maje described, if accurate, would not be intended or desirable. Blizzard can, has - and will break powerful previous-tier set bonuses if they encourage this sort of behaviour. I believe the Moonkin T11 is the most recent example of this. So while Maje's quotes may ring true for now, I wouldn't worry much about it staying true for much longer.

This feedback just needs to filter back up to Blizzard, whether it be via them reading these forums themselves, or someone reposting Maje's findings on the PTR forum.

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Old 06/15/11, 4:55 PM   #26615
pew_pew
Banned
 
Basdasdas
Tauren Druid
 
Zul'Jin
mastery?

hello, one short question: my gear is 359, i have the t4 bonus and cs glyphe.
i have now:
crit 1932 haste 1362 mastery 609.
is this ok? or too less mastery now? my dps is good if a hardcast ai. if i push 2 arkanes between the SS, my dps goes down i can have alternatively:
crit 1982 haste 1196 mastery 705
crit 1982 haste 1094 mastery 807
crit 1982 haste 935 mastery 966
would this better with more wq? oder should i go to more haste?
i see a lot of raid-progressed hunters with 900-1100 haste, why they dont go to the caps at 1346 or 1486 ?
please help me i cant find a answer with math calc and femaledwarf.
thank you!!

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Old 06/15/11, 7:15 PM   #26616
modafoquer
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Death Knight
 
Gurubashi
Hey guys im usign almost the exact build on the Frost DW DPS build and my DPS gets around 11 - 14k DPS on Raids i would like to know if anyone could gimme some feedback on whats wrong or if thats the normal DPS on the build.

heres my armory: Aahrus @ Gurubashi - Game - World of Warcraft

rotation: Horn of winter,Obliterate,Frost Strike,Howling blast (when it procs)

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Old 06/15/11, 8:25 PM   #26617
grathom
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Arygos
I am a new discipline priest but I have been playing wow for some time. I just need some help on how to spec and stat my priest. I have started heroics and found it difficult I have healed three so far and only finished two. Stonecore and Grim Batol. I started Vortex today and got the achievement but had some one else heal and I went to shadow. I couldn't keep up healing on the last boss well that and I had to keep dispelling every body. I know I want to heal, but want to know what I am doing wrong. I will leave you with my armory web page so you can see me and my stats.
Ellynrose @ Arygos - Game - World of Warcraft

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Old 06/16/11, 10:14 AM   #26618
Veigarr
 
Draenei Death Knight
 
Sylvanas (EU)
It was bad idea about shadofrost build. Please, delete this post as quick as you can

Last edited by Veigarr : 06/16/11 at 10:37 AM.

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Old 06/16/11, 12:22 PM   #26619
Letthebodies
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Rogue
 
Eonar
DPS

I'm not sure if this should be posted here or not, but I'm kinda curious as to how much DPS you guys are pulling that are near BiS or 359s. Just want to get a marker for myself.

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Old 06/16/11, 5:50 PM   #26620
Spoonlover
Glass Joe
 
Troll Warrior
 
Thunderlord
SMF BiS Equipment

Is there a BiS site for SMF.

What I have seen so far are sites for TG and that equip doesnt work as well for SMF. The crafted item Elementium Death Plate is BiS for TG (Crit/Mastery), yet Earthen Battlegear (Crit/Haste) is BiS for SMF. Same with leggings. Earthen Leggings (Hit/Mastery) is BiS TG, yet Corefire Leggings (Hit/Haste) is BiS for SMF.

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Old 06/16/11, 6:01 PM   #26621
Spoonlover
Glass Joe
 
Troll Warrior
 
Thunderlord
Rage Potion.

I tooled around with the rage potion prospect in Cata, before I was raid geared and over the 8% hit cap. Best combo nation is Battle Shout (+30), Berserker's Rage (+6 rage) and a Rage Potion (+40-60 rage) can get you up to a full rage bar entering into combat and hit Inner Rage and spam Cleave, WW. Or skip the potion constantly Battle Shout (30sec cd) and Berserker Rage (24 sec CD) and build up your rage bar that way. If you are using TG, and have enough Mastery, Berserker's Rage will generate +8 rage if glyphed.

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Old 06/16/11, 6:12 PM   #26622
Spoonlover
Glass Joe
 
Troll Warrior
 
Thunderlord
Arms vs Fury

I was challenged by an Arms Warrior in a recent dungeon to a dps race. Not gonna lie, ARMS owns AoE damage on trash, but when it came to Boss fights my Fury spec bested him. It comes down to the timing and use of CD's to beat the next melee dpser. Always use a CD immediately before or after Collosus Smash to take advantage of the 6 sec window w/o armor. The CD on CS is 20 sec and when it procs another CD (racial, profession, class, trinket, potion) should be available. Get your timing down to use your CD's in conjunction with CS and no ARMS Warrior should get close to Fury in a single target fight.

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Old 06/16/11, 6:16 PM   #26623
Spoonlover
Glass Joe
 
Troll Warrior
 
Thunderlord
Macros

Noticed a number of Macros posted above my simplest one is:

#showtooltip Bloodthrist
/cast Bloodthrist
/cast Berserker Rage

Immediately after that Raging Blow is available due to Berserker rage not waiting around for it to proc.

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Old 06/16/11, 6:41 PM   #26624
landsoul
Myrmidon Champion
 
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Worgen Warrior
 
Alterac Mountains
Originally Posted by Spoonlover View Post
Arms vs Fury

I was challenged by an Arms Warrior in a recent dungeon to a dps race. Not gonna lie, ARMS owns AoE damage on trash, but when it came to Boss fights my Fury spec bested him. It comes down to the timing and use of CD's to beat the next melee dpser. Always use a CD immediately before or after Collosus Smash to take advantage of the 6 sec window w/o armor. The CD on CS is 20 sec and when it procs another CD (racial, profession, class, trinket, potion) should be available. Get your timing down to use your CD's in conjunction with CS and no ARMS Warrior should get close to Fury in a single target fight.
No Arms Warrior (on live) should allow an equally skilled Fury Warrior to beat him badly in a fair single target fight.

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Old 06/16/11, 8:40 PM   #26625
Runtime
Piston Honda
 
Troll Warrior
 
Hyjal
Originally Posted by Spoonlover View Post
Arms vs Fury

I was challenged by an Arms Warrior in a recent dungeon to a dps race. Not gonna lie, ARMS owns AoE damage on trash, but when it came to Boss fights my Fury spec bested him. It comes down to the timing and use of CD's to beat the next melee dpser. Always use a CD immediately before or after Collosus Smash to take advantage of the 6 sec window w/o armor. The CD on CS is 20 sec and when it procs another CD (racial, profession, class, trinket, potion) should be available. Get your timing down to use your CD's in conjunction with CS and no ARMS Warrior should get close to Fury in a single target fight.
Ive been playing arms the past couple of months and I can out dps equally geared fury warriors by a few thousand dps. This doesn't mean that arms is the superior spec, but that i play arms better than they play fury. Using a single scenario, where human error can interfere, is a terrible way to determine the superior spec. The better way is to run thousands of simulations and extensive math as it allows RNG and human error to not be a factor.

According to my testing, it will be SMF>TG>Arms for 4.2 with arms being about 1k dps behind. This was done with 4.1 BIS gear (not the ones loaded in SimC as they are terribly outdated) and without charge in the mix. TG was very close behind SMF and is very likely to pull ahead when dual Sulfuras, The Extinguished Hand are acquired.

Last edited by Runtime : 06/16/11 at 8:54 PM.

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