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Old 05/18/09, 11:29 AM   #4426
Delysid
 
Батхет
Tauren Warrior
 
Non-US/EU Server (EU)
Thak you very much guys what are you thinking about this program Rawr - Home is it true?

Last edited by Delysid : 05/18/09 at 12:33 PM.

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Old 05/18/09, 11:40 AM   #4427
seridosgunner
Glass Joe
 
Orc Hunter
 
Trollbane
thankyou

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Old 05/18/09, 12:54 PM   #4428
VicieusLH
Banned
 
Undead Warlock
 
Lightninghoof
Can someone calculate the damage/dps/gear weight of:


4PT8 w/ Leggings of the Wanton spellcaster.
(not including hard mode ulduar gear. 2D gear included)

Helm: [Conqueror's Deathbringer Hood]
Neck: [Pendant of Fiery Havoc]
Shoulders: [Conqueror's Deathbringer Shoulderpads]
Chest: [Conqueror's Deathbringer Robe]
Gloves: [Conqueror's Deathbringer Gloves]
Belt: [Sash of Ancient Power]
Legs: [Leggings of the Wanton Spellcaster]
Feet: [Spellslinger's Slippers]
Weapon: [Soulscribe]
Offhand: [Ironmender]
Wand: [Quartz Crystal Wand]
Cloak: [Pennant Cloak]
Wrist: [Bracers of Unleashed Magic]
Ring: [Pyrelight Circle]
Ring: [Signet of Manifested Pain]
Trinket: [Illustration of the Dragon Soul]
Trinket: [Eye of the Broodmother]

371 hit

I really hate getting the T8.5 Gloves, but I would hate not using the Leggings of the Wanton Spellcaster I spent DKP on, even more.

Maybe do some other itterations on the same basic gear setup:
(wanton+T8.5 4 set) with the hard mode BISs.
2PT8 (chest and shoulders) with BISs


Thanks in advance.

Last edited by VicieusLH : 05/18/09 at 1:10 PM.

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Old 05/18/09, 1:43 PM   #4429
Koose
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Runetotem
Thank you Vegaz,

That was what I was doing wrong.

Koose

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Old 05/18/09, 2:02 PM   #4430
littlejim
Von Kaiser
 
Human Priest
 
Sylvanas (EU)
sounds good. thanks.

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Old 05/18/09, 2:26 PM   #4431
hospss
 
Human Paladin
 
Khaz Modan
needing help

hello every one, my main right now is my pally but used to be my lock. i'm looking to hit 80 soon on my lock. i'm in a toss abought best dps spec right now i'm 55/0/12 i would like to stay afflic if it's still a good dps.I know there has been high discution abought what i beleave is demo ruin spec how should i go and what cast rotaion should i use.

Last edited by hospss : 05/18/09 at 2:45 PM.

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Old 05/18/09, 3:34 PM   #4432
grb
 
Undead Warlock
 
The Venture Co (EU)
with 40/31 sometimes i can make 3k dps...
bu other times can't reach 2.5 ... can you plz say what is the best and more easy rotation for this spec ? ty

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Old 05/18/09, 3:59 PM   #4433
lavis
Glass Joe
 
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Blood Elf Warlock
 
Boulderfist
Originally Posted by VicieusLH View Post
Can someone calculate the damage/dps/gear weight of:


4PT8 w/ Leggings of the Wanton spellcaster.
(not including hard mode ulduar gear. 2D gear included)

Helm: [Conqueror's Deathbringer Hood]
Neck: [Pendant of Fiery Havoc]
Shoulders: [Conqueror's Deathbringer Shoulderpads]
Chest: [Conqueror's Deathbringer Robe]
Gloves: [Conqueror's Deathbringer Gloves]
Belt: [Sash of Ancient Power]
Legs: [Leggings of the Wanton Spellcaster]
Feet: [Spellslinger's Slippers]
Weapon: [Soulscribe]
Offhand: [Ironmender]
Wand: [Quartz Crystal Wand]
Cloak: [Pennant Cloak]
Wrist: [Bracers of Unleashed Magic]
Ring: [Pyrelight Circle]
Ring: [Signet of Manifested Pain]
Trinket: [Illustration of the Dragon Soul]
Trinket: [Eye of the Broodmother]

371 hit

I really hate getting the T8.5 Gloves, but I would hate not using the Leggings of the Wanton Spellcaster I spent DKP on, even more.

Maybe do some other itterations on the same basic gear setup:
(wanton+T8.5 4 set) with the hard mode BISs.
2PT8 (chest and shoulders) with BISs


Thanks in advance.
chardev.org v6 ~ a World of Warcraft character planner

A few notes about gear that I have noticed (I'm leaving out hard mode loot)... While [Soulscribe] is good more people will want it for being a dagger. Getting the [Runescribed Blade] is much easier and seeing that both aren't BiS (gg algalon) you will always have something to shoot for. Ironically since the days of MC staffs are fairly competition again most notably [The Lifebinder].

The weak teir pieces comparable to other gear seem to be the helm and legs. I acquired the gloves because hard mode loot is the only loot that could potentially replace it, but this isn't the case with the T8 helm or legs.

[Scale of Fates] is a viable trinket if you get terrible RNG on brood and it's only ~10 dps lower.

I myself am looking at a gear set like this: chardev.org v6 ~ a World of Warcraft character planner

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Old 05/18/09, 4:24 PM   #4434
Ormack
Von Kaiser
 
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Undead Rogue
 
Shadow Council
Your right, Sorry need to slow down a bit today.

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Old 05/18/09, 4:24 PM   #4435
b1ack0ut3
Glass Joe
 
Troll Rogue
 
Korgath
Originally Posted by Ormack View Post
Your right, Sorry need to slow down a bit today.
No worries... It's Monday

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Old 05/18/09, 5:15 PM   #4436
Hippie
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Zul'Jin
Has anyone done a new BiS list for 3.1.2 since the change to t7 will make it worse than t8?

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Old 05/18/09, 5:59 PM   #4437
Fecys
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
Tarren Mill (EU)
I dont manage to pull more dps whit 3/13/55 then whit 41/30 on the dummy. Could this be because of my gear and the bigger scaling factors of this spec? And do you guys think I should be doing more dps whit 3/13/55 then whit 41/30 whit my gear?
Here is my armory:The World of Warcraft Armory

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Old 05/18/09, 6:35 PM   #4438
elchuchopisado
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Warrior
 
Darkspear
My UI

Here is my UI. took a while to configure but i finally got it to my liking. Everything is easy to see and well laid out IMO.

and yes i have moved the pitbull frames in a little because i realized that the target one was covering my buffs a little so that has been fixed. other than that this is how i PvP/Raid. lemme know what you think

omen is situated right next to the chat box which is why there is a little blank there where i put the panel using kgpanels.

25 man raid:

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Old 05/18/09, 6:37 PM   #4439
sarkastro
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Warlock
 
Icecrown
Originally Posted by Hippie View Post
Has anyone done a new BiS list for 3.1.2 since the change to t7 will make it worse than t8?
Considering the bullet point above the BiS table in the BiS thread, I'd say yes.

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Old 05/18/09, 7:59 PM   #4440
Ninzor
 
Tauren Hunter
 
Thunderhorn (EU)
Hi guys,

As I'm pretty new here i have a few questions. I've been reading up aloto n EJ's and learned all basics of my class on these forums. But i have some doubts about my spec atm could someone give me some feedback on this?

The World of Warcraft Armory

Thank you in advance,
Ninzor

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Old 05/18/09, 8:14 PM   #4441
arlen
Piston Honda
 
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Human Paladin
 
Blackhand
Looks fine to me, a lot of hunters are using that spec myself included.

I would take one point from hunting party though to max Noxious stings.

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Old 05/18/09, 8:49 PM   #4442
Iru
Don Flamenco
 
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Draenei Hunter
 
Muradin
The only other thing you might consider is moving some number of your Trap Mastery points to Hawk Eye. Yes, that is a net DPS loss in a stationary tank-n-spank with no effects to avoid but it can be a huge help if it lets you stand still because you no longer have to avoid close in items or lets you hit adds that little bit sooner.

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Old 05/18/09, 10:04 PM   #4443
Redhorn
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Death Knight
 
Nagrand
Originally Posted by Redhorn View Post
For dps, which is better? 3/3 Morbidity or 5/5 Necrosis?
Umm, so does anyone have an answer for this question? This is my spec.

Originally Posted by Redhorn View Post
The typical 12/59 Unholy. Basically this but without Ghoul Frenzy and 2/5 Necrosis.

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

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Old 05/19/09, 12:51 AM   #4444
SyphonX
Glass Joe
 
Undead Rogue
 
Laughing Skull
Maybe a little of Topic but since its about gear maybe not. Has any notice how terrible the art is for all these Ulduar drops? I mean everything looks like crap.

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Old 05/19/09, 1:39 AM   #4445
ggshaman
 
Human Death Knight
 
Mannoroth
As a BloodKnight tank I personally like

45/5/21

this spec has UB for AoE trash tanking as well as boos that spawn adds
but it also has all the ST ability as normal blood tank
I find it to be a extremely flexible spec that works well for almost any fight
Any ideas?

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Old 05/19/09, 3:15 AM   #4446
zeria1
Glass Joe
 
Human Mage
 
Korialstrasz
Agreed

I dont think we should sacrifice dps...but lets face it...dps at the cost of the raid.........or a boss kill...for the sake of dps is just plain dumb. How many times have we seen dps gank agro off the tank to look good. Personally, if i dont come in first, or even first amongst the mages, it's not everything. Did I do my job? Did I make my health managable for the healers? Did I make the best possible decision for the raid at that particular moment..not just my personal dps ranking? If I can say yes to all those...i'm in good shape as far as i'm concerned. From time to time grandstanding is ok...but working with a team is the point of raiding imo. A mage..or any class that takes all those things into consideration...is my kind of raider. They tend to be more successful. Just my opinion.
And btw...this website ROCK!!!!

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Old 05/19/09, 4:05 AM   #4447
orion121
Piston Honda
 
Troll Shaman
 
Eredar
Originally Posted by Sardaukar View Post
Right, it does. Obviously if you are not actually running out of mana though, the first 2 are of no use and +sp would grant more throughput than the crit and sp you get from +int. I only ask because my guild has not yet begun doing any serious hard mode encounters and I was curious as far as mana regen needs.
XT Hard = Need Mana
Vezax Hard (I assume) = NEED MOAR MANA
I also imagine Mimiron to be a treat to heal in hard.

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Old 05/19/09, 4:22 AM   #4448
Vando
 
Vando
Tauren Death Knight
 
Khaz'goroth
My 51/2/18

I am using http:

Major Glyphs:
DS
DRB
DD
Minor Glyphs:
Pest
HoW
RD

Am still looking at testing it a bit more, but the disease durations seem fine for rotation.

Be safe.

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Old 05/19/09, 4:24 AM   #4449
Enyalius
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Cenarion Circle
Sorry this post is late and it has been discussed multiple times but as I read through I feel either I am missing something or the calculations are wrong. Glyph of Disease allows you to use 1 blood rune that is normally a HS to refresh all your diseases on the target effectively allowing you to use a DS instead of PS/IT and then that DS gives you an extra 2 Death runes you wouldn't have giving you 2HS. So in reality your rotation would go, DS, PS, IT, HS, HS, DC, HS, HS, DS, HS, Pest, HS, HS, HS, HS, DS, HS, HS, DS, HS, Pest. So according to logic sorry no numbers bc I am tired and not good at the numerical theory crafting at this hour. You trade a HS for a pest but gain a DS which hits harder than any possible IT, PS scenario and 2 HS's. Just a thought let me know if anyone else is noticing this.

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Old 05/19/09, 5:11 AM   #4450
Trobandos
 
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Dwarf Death Knight
 
Zirkel des Cenarius (EU)

Recount - Damge Meter
Bartender 4 - Actionbars
Magefever - Buff & Proc Tracking
Skinner - Skinning stuff
CowTip -Tooltip Mod
Grid - Raidframes (will be exchanged by a Textlist of Raidmembers)
oRA2 -Mt Windews, Raid invites, and more
Tbag - Bag and Bank addon
ICEHUD - Playerframe
HideBlizzard - hides Blizz stuff
AutoBar - For everything that is not an attack
simple Minimap - the name says it all
automaton - automates stuff
msbt - combattext
omen - Thread meter
prat3 - Chat addon
sbf - Buff frames
geardps - Gear evaluation
DrDamage - Puts avg. dmg. on actionbar buttons
pitbull - for pve group frames (are replaced by nothing)
rating buster - sets all those ratings to human understanable values

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