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Old 03/04/09, 2:32 AM   #2656
Alinth
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Troll Mage
 
Proudmoore
Originally Posted by Kelfar View Post
The very first page has the rotations.
Thanks Kelfar, i had a look over the first page and everything seemed similar to before, maybe ive missed something. Ill look over again tonight, thank you.

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Old 03/04/09, 2:52 AM   #2657
ksubi
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Draenei Shaman
 
Blackrock
Has anyone punched up some numbers on the PTR to find out what the new expertise cap is with the change to Unleashed Rage. I had a quick play before our raid tonight but it seems to be somewhere around 146. Can someone please confirm

Edit: Never mind I looked it up and found that 140 expertise rating is the new cap with 3/3 in Unleashed Rage.

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Old 03/04/09, 5:20 AM   #2658
achille
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Human Warlock
 
Shadowsong (EU)
I have a quick question about the base stats used in the simcraft. For example:

Player=Warlock_T8_00_56_15 DPS=5908.6 (Error=+/-1.2 Range=+/-585) DPR=17.7 RPS=334.8/276.7 (mana)
Core Stats: strength=59 agility=61 stamina=1257 intellect=968 spirit=541 health=19353 mana=20722
Spell Stats: power=2000 hit=14.1% crit=16.7% penetration=0 haste=15.2% mp5=0
Attack Stats: power=737 hit=11.3% crit=12.3% expertise=0.0 penetration=0 haste=15.2%

Player=Warlock_T8_03_52_16 DPS=6044.6 (Error=+/-1.2 Range=+/-582) DPR=18.8 RPS=322.2/262.9 (mana)
Core Stats: strength=59 agility=61 stamina=1257 intellect=968 spirit=541 health=19353 mana=20722
Spell Stats: power=2000 hit=11.1% crit=18.4% penetration=0 haste=15.2% mp5=0
Attack Stats: power=737 hit=8.8% crit=14.1% expertise=0.0 penetration=0 haste=15.2%

Why is that again?

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Old 03/04/09, 11:26 AM   #2659
Fyrestryke
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Orc Death Knight
 
<SG>
Bleeding Hollow
Originally Posted by staph View Post
That is amazing news. Been raiding Naxx forever and haven't even seen it drop yet. Now I'll have something to spend these soon to be worthless Valor tokens on.
Has ANYONE seen this drop anytime in the recent past? We havent seen one the entire time we've been doing Naxx 25. It's almost like it's not even on the loot table anymore...which maybe isnt all that far fetched if they're adding it to badges. Any confirmation that it is still dropping (i.e. someone who has recieved it in the last couple weeks) would make me feel better. It's one of the few things I feel I need to be ready for Ulduar. BoH being one of the others. Our second one of those dropped last night and I lost out on it to a Ret Paladin.

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Old 03/04/09, 11:37 AM   #2660
lichdawg
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Undead Death Knight
 
Archimonde (EU)
Originally Posted by Fyrestryke View Post
Has ANYONE seen this drop anytime in the recent past? We havent seen one the entire time we've been doing Naxx 25. It's almost like it's not even on the loot table anymore...which maybe isnt all that far fetched if they're adding it to badges. Any confirmation that it is still dropping (i.e. someone who has recieved it in the last couple weeks) would make me feel better. It's one of the few things I feel I need to be ready for Ulduar. BoH being one of the others. Our second one of those dropped last night and I lost out on it to a Ret Paladin.
You cannot possibly be loosing the sigil of awareness to a paladin... You might have skipped on what was discussed and didn't realise the reply was about the sigil going on ptr for 25 marks.

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Old 03/04/09, 11:39 AM   #2661
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Flergh
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Originally Posted by Fyrestryke View Post
Has ANYONE seen this drop anytime in the recent past? We havent seen one the entire time we've been doing Naxx 25. It's almost like it's not even on the loot table anymore...which maybe isnt all that far fetched if they're adding it to badges. Any confirmation that it is still dropping (i.e. someone who has recieved it in the last couple weeks) would make me feel better. It's one of the few things I feel I need to be ready for Ulduar. BoH being one of the others. Our second one of those dropped last night and I lost out on it to a Ret Paladin.
Dropped ~3 weeks ago for me.

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Old 03/04/09, 11:47 AM   #2662
Verne
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Argent Dawn (EU)
Random loot is random. We've had a lot of Sigils of Awareness drop. All our DKs got one and we have disenchanted many.

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Old 03/04/09, 11:57 AM   #2663
Mystryl
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Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Daggerspine (EU)
Random loot is most definitely random.

We've had like 4 or 5 Sigils, they just wont stop dropping. However, since we started raiding we have never, ever, seen a Betrayer of Humanity, and only week before last we say an Armageddon drop. In the distant past we have seen other epic ilvl 213 2hdrs, but they're not dropping now.

Really annoying!

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Old 03/04/09, 12:00 PM   #2664
Xaviorm
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Undead Warlock
 
Spinebreaker
So far the best numbers are being put up by DoomGuards and that seems to me to be a bit of a gimmick given that on "most" raid bosses you are not going to use it. The Question I am looking to answer is what is going to be the highest DPS spec for raiding which I suppose is a different question that what is being answered here.

So far that spec appears to be 0/41/30 which isn't what it appears with the graph that shows affliction as the hands down winner but only because of the use of a DG..

If we are going to compare specs with DG's can we get the DG damage added to all the specs and perhaps break them out into their own set of graphs?

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Old 03/04/09, 3:43 PM   #2665
Fyrestryke
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Bleeding Hollow
Originally Posted by lichdawg View Post
You cannot possibly be loosing the sigil of awareness to a paladin... You might have skipped on what was discussed and didn't realise the reply was about the sigil going on ptr for 25 marks.
Reading comprehension FTW. I said our second BoH dropped last night, which I lost to a ret pally.
As a side note we had 2, yes 2, Inevitable Defeats drop on the same trash pull last night.

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Old 03/04/09, 4:03 PM   #2666
Fendisaoming
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Whisperwind
Originally Posted by kpm1 View Post
Use the raptor or a cat, scorpids got nerfed a while back.
ty sir.

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Old 03/04/09, 6:00 PM   #2667
dangerbird
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Dwarf Hunter
 
Lightbringer
Originally Posted by Azurion View Post
A change in patch 3.0.3 will be the reason for that:



I remember having 2k hits and 3k+ crits with it earlier.
yeah, i'm glad i got all my leveling in before the nerf. But i still love my gorilla! (even after 3.1 when he has to share thunderstomp with all the tenacity pets)

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Old 03/04/09, 6:25 PM   #2668
Darksubaru
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Mal'Ganis
I dont want them to take out the mounts

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Old 03/04/09, 6:26 PM   #2669
Darksubaru
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Mal'Ganis
I used OMEN, but then it was having problems and was acting all weird

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Old 03/04/09, 6:28 PM   #2670
Darksubaru
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Mal'Ganis
I appreciate all the input on this thread, it has really helped

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