Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1784

Cranch · 06/28/11, 1:45 PM

Originally Posted by Jezele

We have a [Crossfire Carbine] rotting in the bank and one of our extra healers has rerolled a hunter. He doesn't have an epic bow yet, so would it be worthwhile to let him have it in the meantime? The MM thread lists weapon DPS >> all, so I'm going from the assumption it would improve his overall DPS (IIRC, he has a 346 blue crafted right now).

The carbine has no agility compared to, say, an [Overpowered Chicken Splitter]. femaledwarf.com will show if that hunter will gain any DPS; I gained 1.4 dps. Whether that's worthwhile or not is up to you.

Zathan · 06/28/11, 1:58 PM

Just a few questions:

#1

[...]and now that we have our Innervates all to ourselves.

Why are we going to use innervate on ourselves now?

#2 Is living seed gonna be better in 4.2? The consensus in 4.1 was that it sucked no?

#3 No on is talking about the heroic version of Fall of Mortality (cho'gall trinket ilvl 372). How does it compare to 4.2 ilvl 378 trinks?

I'm trying to figure out the best talent spec for 10m (hard mode)

quietstrm07 · 06/28/11, 2:19 PM

Originally Posted by Zathan

Why are we going to use innervate on ourselves now?

"Innervate now grants an ally target 5% of his or her maximum mana over 10 seconds, but still grants 20% of the druid's maximum mana over 10 seconds when self-cast."

This was just put into place with 4.2. It basically comes down to using your CD to give another player (assuming 120k mana) 6,000 mana plus you receiving 12,000 mana (glyphed) vs. you receiving 24,000 mana yourself plus freeing up a glyph slot

Halle · 06/28/11, 2:59 PM

I'm wondering just how far ahead DW Frost is over 2H Frost in 4.2?

Does anyone have any actual numbers yet as to if it would be worth swapping down from a Heroic Akirus to 2 normal mode 1 handers (Lava Spine & Soul Blade)?

Môurn · 06/28/11, 3:02 PM

Originally Posted by Zathan

Just a few questions:

#2 Is living seed gonna be better in 4.2? The consensus in 4.1 was that it sucked no?

#3 No on is talking about the heroic version of Fall of Mortality (cho'gall trinket ilvl 372). How does it compare to 4.2 ilvl 378 trinks?

I'm trying to figure out the best talent spec for 10m (hard mode)

#2 Living Seed isn't getting better itself per se. With the effect of crit getting buffed from 150% to 200% and our ability to talent +60% crit to Regrowth, Regrowth is getting better and in effect you will have more uptime of Living Seed on the Tank even es a Raid Healer (read my post above for a detailed description of why exactly).

#3 Trinkets are discussed in the opening post of this thread. Additionally, the old thread is linked, so you can go to the last pages there and see if there isn't more info as well.

CrK · 06/28/11, 10:14 PM

I'm new here, so if I have some mistakes im sorry

I'm a spanish wow player from Dun Modr and here is my BIS 4.2 378 profile

Profiler - Wowhead

Tell me about it plz

Thx all

Honorlesspwn · 06/29/11, 1:14 AM

Halle the PTR is still up for another day or two so copy a premade and test your self I'm noticing my self that being in frost presence if you can keep up with the procs in 4.2 is better depends if your a fast player or not (If not go unholy presence)

Furywind · 06/29/11, 1:49 AM

Just wondering if we can clean up this thread now that 4.2 is here.

Labomba · 06/29/11, 3:27 AM

Any one know if MM or Surv is going to be best in 4.2 ?

Labomba · 06/29/11, 3:31 AM

Is surv better then MM in patch 4.2 ?

Foxhoundn · 06/29/11, 3:36 AM

Wouldnt - Splintered Brimstone Seal - Items - Sigrie be better than Widows Kiss, since it has more mastery?

Nubittos · 06/29/11, 4:57 AM

So I've been looking at the priority queue and found quite a few possible extensions to the current one using Enhsim:

Note, this might not be the best queue out there, but it was the best I could find, so at least there's a starting point! Discussion may commence

SS_0
ST_0
LL
FS_UEF
SS
MW5_LB
UE
MW4_LB
ES
SW
LVB_UEF
MW_3LB
ST

naliel · 06/29/11, 6:10 AM

Originally Posted by naliel

In the latest ptr build Beth'tilac got changed from beast to spider. I won't be surprised if they also changed the other encounters you mentioned.

She's beast again, i seriously don't know why, but i hope it will get changed soon. I don't wanna be a troll!

Reinhardt · 06/29/11, 7:38 AM

Originally Posted by OldGeezer

thanks for your answer, but how much mastery do i need? its not a problem to hit 100% even if i will reforge all secondary stat to parry/dodge.

There is no cap, stack it like can food before a nuclear war.

Althor · 06/29/11, 8:29 AM

Just thought I'd clarify that the axe does indeed drop. It dropped for us off of Shannox. So this is now more than just a case of "well that's nice, but...". At least until Blizzard nerf it somehow.