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Old 06/29/11, 9:54 AM   #26761
Morve201
Glass Joe
 
Troll Druid
 
Shattered Halls (EU)
Question :

How good is the trash staff for us ?

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Old 06/29/11, 10:56 AM   #26762
Kennylein
 
Undead Rogue
 
Tichondrius (EU)
Originally Posted by christa View Post
Hi dear colleagues, I've made a little update about jodou's post.

Our BiS list ofcourse !

Waist: Flamebinding Girdle (Avengers of Hyjal : Honored)

I was wondering if this is still right as you cant upgrade the faction items to heroic. There is only one belt with the ilvl of 391, the upgraded belt from the valor points merchant... so whats BiS now?

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Old 06/29/11, 11:03 AM   #26763
Slathe25
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Rogue
 
Thunderlord
Trinket changes.

Can someone confirm that these trinkets (Fluid Death, and Tia's Grace) proc off of Mutilate? I am pretty sure all melee abilities are supposed to proc the Agi stack, however it seems that now only abilities like BS, Throw, Sap, and Garrote) get the proc's to go off. I was thinking it was a buff addon at first. But I watched my Attack power and sure enough, I am only getting it on finishing moves. I get the initial buff out of stealth with Garrote, but I don't get additional buffs until I rupture or envenom again. If this is the case, and its a shadow change will this push these trinkets farther down the list. Stacking these trinkets to 10 and keeping them there pretty much makes or break them, not to mention ramp time.

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Old 06/29/11, 12:01 PM   #26764
Morve201
Glass Joe
 
Troll Druid
 
Shattered Halls (EU)
How good is the trash staff for us ? anybody know rankings?

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Old 06/29/11, 12:49 PM   #26765
ChiknariseMcFro
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Death Knight
 
Bloodhoof
Yay for crit, more crit, and even more crit! Anybody else notice the amount of dps plate pieces including our t12 chest that has crit on it? Joy...more reforging away this crappy stat. Looking at both frost and unholy threads stat weights I can't help but wonder if Blizzard itself is trolling us and trying to force dks to tank instead of dps.
Blizz Developer: Lols, I have an idea, lets rework dks so that crit is their worst stat then put it all over the gear they want. >;p

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Old 06/29/11, 4:50 PM   #26766
troppoveloce
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Mage
 
Undermine
4.2 is out, I've lost ~3-3.8k dps that I can tell. I got the new boe dagger, the rep cloak and the rep belt, ilev 376 now and still that's how the numbers have come out. I've got no chance of beating people with much lower gear than me with this patch. Is anyone seeing this sort of compounding? The notes say 5% reduction of arcane blast, but i'm seeing 10-12% reduction in overall dps. It's a sad day for arcane.

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Old 06/29/11, 4:54 PM   #26767
Faguile
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Spirestone
SOooo...after we reforge mastery and try to stack it the most...whats better for avoidance to have since now we have a 27% up parry from str...dodge or parry?

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Old 06/29/11, 5:37 PM   #26768
Fydar
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Ysera
Originally Posted by Faguile View Post
SOooo...after we reforge mastery and try to stack it the most...whats better for avoidance to have since now we have a 27% up parry from str...dodge or parry?
Did you bother to even read the OP?

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Old 06/29/11, 6:19 PM   #26769
Anakbelah
Glass Joe
 
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Anvilmar
I play TG Fury mostly due to personal preference, however another Fury warrior in my guild prefers SMF. While this by itself is no big deal, he is consistantly insisting that higher hit rating is better. I go with around 8-10% then stack Str and Crit. He is aiming for closer to 16-18% hit rating. Is there a bigger need for hit rating for SMF? I am not seeing poor DPS (full 359 gear but no 4-piece bonus yet), I am usually around 15-18K in raids depending on the fight. I am researching various sites to try and figure out why there seems to be a difference in opinion on this. If a few people would be willing to offer their opinions as to why they opt for a specific hit rating goal, I would very much appreciate it.

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Old 06/29/11, 7:01 PM   #26770
Auriol
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Mage
 
Fizzcrank
Originally Posted by troppoveloce View Post
4.2 is out, I've lost ~3-3.8k dps that I can tell. I got the new boe dagger, the rep cloak and the rep belt, ilev 376 now and still that's how the numbers have come out. I've got no chance of beating people with much lower gear than me with this patch. Is anyone seeing this sort of compounding? The notes say 5% reduction of arcane blast, but i'm seeing 10-12% reduction in overall dps. It's a sad day for arcane.
I've seen a similar reduction in DPS. If the 5% nerf hit the base damage of AB, would it then propogate down to each stack, thereby exponentially reducing our dps?

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Old 06/29/11, 7:32 PM   #26771
Hoedown
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Night Elf Druid
 
Shattrath
I was running around doing trash in RL today and noticed my LS buff wouldn't stay up while i was moving. I had to keep casting to keep it up.

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Old 06/29/11, 7:39 PM   #26772
Bbasher
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Warrior
 
Zangarmarsh
Did Mastery get a buff at all for fury over hit since 4.2?

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Old 06/29/11, 9:02 PM   #26773
Lockgrim
Glass Joe
 
Orc Shaman
 
Blutkessel (EU)
I think the Eye of Purification is take out from the loottables.

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Old 06/30/11, 1:45 AM   #26774
shadostalker
Glass Joe
 
Orc Rogue
 
Frostmane
So I'm not sure if anyone has posted this yet but, after going through the vendor that upgrades all the items i don't see the Rep Belt from Avengers of Hyjal on the list to upgrade. Assuming we can't upgrade the rep the, that would place the Firelands trash belt in BiS for belts?

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Old 06/30/11, 4:42 AM   #26775
FearMeMortals
Von Kaiser
 
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Worgen Warrior
 
Barthilas
When some one gets the opportunity it'd be good to get some kind of trinket ranking. I've been trying to sim myself but I'm still working my way around it, so I apologies for asking others more knowledgeable to do this for me -.-

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