Elitist Jerks Thread of Ultimate Stupidity

07/01/11, 10:44 PM   #26806
Zornack
Glass Joe

Human Warlock

Alterac Mountains
Originally Posted by FlyingDonkey
I believe that the trinket charts are flawed.

 Quick maths, Heart of ignacious vs Witching hourglass : Heart of ignacious : 321 * 5 = 1605 haste , 16.7% uptime (20s/120s), thus 267.5 haste giving +1259 DPS Witching hourglass : 1710 haste for 15s => +355 DPS, it means the ICD should be : [1710*15] * 1259/267.5 /355 = 340s, 5min 40s... ?! I believe the ICD is 75s, even with a ICD of 120 and with +/- 15s proc time (10% proc), 5min40s sounds totally unreasonable. Now the main objection to this, is that an "on use" trinket will get more benefits that a automatic one, given that you can use it at the best moment to maximize its effect. Quick maths, Heart of ignacious vs Figurine - Jeweled Serpent Heart of ignacious : 1605 haste * 20s / 120s = 267.5 haste giving +1259DPS which means 1 haste = +4.71 DPS (wtf!) Figurine - Jeweled Serpent : 1425 SP * 20s / 120s = 237.5 SP giving +851DPS which means 1 SP = +3.58 DPS Haste > SP ?? No way. Maybe the chart for heart of ignacious includes the SP stacked ? I 'm not sure, I just know that the charts as they are now are flawed.
The chart includes Heart's SP stack in its DPS calculation. The only things ignored are raw reforgeable stats and straight Int.

07/01/11, 10:47 PM   #26807
PterOs
Glass Joe

Gnome Mage

Вечная Песня (EU)
 Originally Posted by Elge It is possible that the items available at the heroic gear NPC are sort of gated, to avoid confusion or whatever. Right now, I only have 21 items available to me: the trash BoEs and the cheaper VP rewards. It seems likely that next lookout, when people are actually able to aquire the needed VP, additional rewards will get unlocked.
By that logic Upgrade vendor should have no items at all because you are not be able to actually kill anything in Heroic to get Crystallyzed Firestones yet, and VP vendor should have right now only 700VP rewards like Relics and Wands, rite?
And speaking from my perspective I would be pretty confused and angry if that actually happens because I spent my VP on wand already.

07/01/11, 10:58 PM   #26808
FlyingDonkey
Glass Joe

Suramar (EU)
 Originally Posted by Zornack The chart includes Heart's SP stack in its DPS calculation. The only things ignored are raw reforgeable stats and straight Int.
That's what I thought, my bad.

07/01/11, 11:02 PM   #26809
Elge
Von Kaiser

Troll Mage

Anub'arak (EU)
 Originally Posted by PterOs By that logic Upgrade vendor should have no items at all because you are not be able to actually kill anything in Heroic to get Crystallyzed Firestones yet, and VP vendor should have right now only 700VP rewards like Relics and Wands, rite? And speaking from my perspective I would be pretty confused and angry if that actually happens because I spent my VP on wand already.
Maybe for people to check out the available items or something. Anyway, I would not rework the profiles until next week or a blue post.

Edit: Thinking about it again, I realized it makes sense to have the mentioned items missing from the upgrade vendor. The VP items that are upgradable fill slots that are not or only marginally filled by the firelands loottables. So yeah, ignore this post and the previous one.

Last edited by Elge : 07/01/11 at 11:22 PM.

07/01/11, 11:15 PM   #26810
PterOs
Glass Joe

Gnome Mage

Вечная Песня (EU)
 Mechanic that you suggest would be the act of ultimate trolling by Blizzard. Imagine if at the 8th week after patch [Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Rest] appears at vendor for 7841 VP and next week disappears.

 07/02/11, 2:01 AM #26811 BarbieDollLover Glass Joe   Kneegroo Blood Elf Priest   Thaurissan Hi. Here's the thing. I havnt logged into WoW for a good couple of months and was wondering if theres any change in the rotation. Ive been reading up and MB seems to be buffed, does that mean i hit it on cd or wait for an orb. Also regarding stats, do i pump haste to maximum that i can get out of gear or is there a cut off that i should be aiming at?
 07/02/11, 6:09 AM #26812 kardacz Glass Joe   Sorrôw Worgen Warlock   Outland (EU) Even after the nerf the soul swap glyph is the only one providing a dps increase besides lifetap and shadow bolt. Fear doesn't have any use in Firelands, Shadowflame might be good for ragnaros or the spider. If you really want to drop it use Glyph of Soulstone instead. Now to my question: Before they moved Improved Soul Fire down the tree so affliction couldn't reach it, it was better to use Bane of Agony then Doom cause of all the haste we had. So with all the hit/haste on Firelands gear, is there like a haste treshold where BoA provides more dps then BoD on single target fights ?
 07/02/11, 6:32 AM #26813 Lenzia Glass Joe   fizi Blood Elf Priest   Anub'arak (EU) Hello 've Got a question gives somewhere a bis gear to normal mod ?sorry for my fail english
 07/02/11, 6:46 AM #26814 Nyyghte Glass Joe   Undeadfreddy Undead Warlock   Shattered Hand I haven't found Glyph of Soul Swap useful in nearly any circumstance after the nerfs and I'm hard-pressed to recall that I found it terribly useful before. It now and always has only saved 1 second when all 3 dots are applied, the only change has been the increases in the cd making it save 1 second on fewer dot applications. It's just underwhelming to me and I'd much prefer the dot removal mechanic of normal soul swap for CC and Omno.
 07/02/11, 8:16 AM #26815 Valamir   Valamir Worgen Death Knight   Aegwynn (EU) Ah.. hey guys, I'm looking for some advice in improving my Character.. I think i have too much Parry in comparison to Dodge and my Mastery seems to be too low Can any1 help me please? :o Valamir @ Aegwynn - Spiel - World of Warcraft Thank you :> btw... Stoneskin Gargoyle vs. Swordshattering for me? :o I'm not sure Last edited by Valamir : 07/02/11 at 9:00 AM.
 07/02/11, 9:42 AM #26816 doncruton Glass Joe   DONCRUTON Human Warrior   Silvermoon (EU) cap on stats ??? is easy for someone can tell me what the cap for mastery - expertise - dodge - parry - block - hit and crit chance plz !!!!!
 07/02/11, 10:37 AM #26817 Shadospawn Glass Joe   Shadospawn Night Elf Rogue   Dark Iron Just something I want to ask about: I did some looking around and saw no way to make the avengers of Hyjaal pieces heroic, is there something I'm missing or were they only able to be data-mined and not implemented into the game?
 07/02/11, 3:39 PM #26818 Rudlow Glass Joe   Myles Gnome Mage   Stormreaver (EU) Hi, Id like to ask about transition between T11 and T12 sets, talking about 4set bonuses. So T12 4set bonus is still a matter of calculations, but T11 4 set bonus is real nice dps boost, so having 4 372 pieces keeps me thinking about the breaking point. Anyone did some research on that?
 07/02/11, 4:51 PM #26819 Havòk Glass Joe   Havòk Tauren Druid   Mug'thol This is annoying to read and it is not helping anyone. Go argue in a different thread about simulators.
 07/03/11, 2:16 AM #26820 bishikon Glass Joe   Bishikon Human Warlock   Frostmourne yeah ua and cor are now instantly updating upon hitting drain soul

 Elitist Jerks Thread of Ultimate Stupidity