Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1794

Geff · 07/06/11, 10:38 PM

Is the t12 2p good enough to use over t11 4p? Upgrade going from 372 pieces to 378 to be exact.

trevest · 07/07/11, 2:01 AM

Last week i was doing 21k on Baleroc after tuesday i was doing 19k upgraded to the valor bracers so actually gained agi and kept stats relatively the same. Anyone know if they might've stealth nerfed us? Of course there's always the possibility that i just had a bad night.

Soulwax · 07/07/11, 4:07 AM

fixed

saedo · 07/07/11, 4:16 AM

Originally Posted by Soulwax

there is something wrong with your hit conversion cause i always get 20 hit more then displayed in my wow ui

Sounds like a misplaced glinting demonseye.

Jeckyl · 07/07/11, 5:47 AM

As this is my first post here first of all Thank You very much for all Your hard work and ideas which I have been following already a loooong time /slap@me :P.

And now to add some ideas:

In case of secondary stat management. I follow strictly the convention of: haste(breakpoint)>mastery=>crit

But lately when I was doing reforging on my gear I noticed something which I do almost without thinking.

Remember that Mastery is generally constant throughout all the boss fight (unless You have a trinket), but crit can and will probably vary. So coming to the point:

Mastery gives a bonus ONLY on full numbers so 13.01 mastery will give you the same bonus as 13.99. So if You reforge crit to mastery reforge it only if You get a whole point on Mastery otherwise it would be better on higher crit because Your crit chance will change during a boss fight (due to raid buffs + power torrent)

So we could even modify our second stat priority this way:

Haste(breakpoint) > Mastery(full point)>Crit

Lord_Spaztic · 07/07/11, 5:57 AM

Now maybe it's me, and maybe I'm just wrong. The value of expertise. Comparing [Ruthless Gladiator's Greatsword] vs [Skullstealer Greataxe]

Standard Base DPS : My current Character DPS on SS = 27,248 (SMF)
Equip 2x Ruthless : 27,338
Equip 2x SSGA (Haste->Crit) : 27,834

Now why would the SSGA parse Higher for a Human Fury Warrior?
It doesn't seem logical that the PvP Swords, Dispite having Resli, Would parse lower than the axes. IF Under Expertise Caps, wouldn't it be higher?
Is this because of the SEP isn't working?

Chainfire · 07/07/11, 5:58 AM

Originally Posted by Jeckyl

Mastery gives a bonus ONLY on full numbers so 13.01 mastery will give you the same bonus as 13.99. So if You reforge crit to mastery reforge it only if You get a whole point on Mastery otherwise it would be better on higher crit because Your crit chance will change during a boss fight (due to raid buffs + power torrent)

Can anyone confirm this? If so would it be wise to reforge to always hit something.01?

Pleinair93 · 07/07/11, 6:26 AM

It is not true, you get benefit on any bit of mastery you have, no on whole numbers.

Jeckyl · 07/07/11, 7:42 AM

It seems true to me. I made some tests with going under a full mastery number and over it as well with staying in the same region of full number. Additionally the tooltip states the same.

More tests on it plz

Jvicious · 07/07/11, 9:31 AM

Originally Posted by MasterDinadan

Mr. Robot's basic stat weights are pre-DR, so it is saying that Parry rating is better than Mastery rating assuming that Parry is not subject to diminishing returns, which is perfectly accurate.

At a reasonable gear level, Mastery is better than Dodge/Parry, as we know. Mr. Robot does not contradict this and if you check it will even tell you to gem and reforge for Mastery, as you would expect.

Overall, it's a decent model. Note that, for the cloaks, the FR cloak still came ahead for me even when I set Hit to 0, but it was very close. If you are at a higher dodge/parry than me (and thus have greater DR), then the Thrall cloak is probably better. It also depends on how much you value the extra stam. It's not much, but might just be enough to tip your preference one way or the other.

Thanks for clearing that up I appreciate it!

DiamondTear · 07/07/11, 9:50 AM

Originally Posted by saboya

At the end of the fight your DLs should be far above 190k heals, so yeah, I don't think it's very useful.

It would be foolish to look at the max DL you can have at the end of the fight and value mastery according to that. You shouldn't comment if you haven't done the fight extensively on HC.

theeverdead · 07/07/11, 10:39 AM

I took off for a bit after cata came out and they started after demos AE abilties were being toned down and was being left as a lesser dps spec.

Where does the warlock class now stand against other classes in DPS? Are hybrids still out dpsing us pure dps?

Loremaster · 07/07/11, 11:24 AM

I am hoping i am asking this in the right spot. I got my Lady playing the game, right now she's a Fury spec warrior, however she is ALWAYS at the bottom of the dps list. My tank Paly is doing more than 4x damage than her, I am sure that is not supposed to be that way.

So my question is, which spec does more DPS in PVE and PVP (we will be starting that at 85) Right now she's 78, but I have some nice weapons lined up for her, for level 80.

anthell · 07/07/11, 11:55 AM

I have some questions regarding t12 switch...

1.once i lose my 4 set bonus, it is still good to refresh inq using 1 or 2 HP as before or im going to need to wait until 3?

2.With 2 set bonus giving cs 15% more damage would glyph of CS able to replace any of my current glyphs?

3.Which of this pull strat is better?

00:00 prepot
0:10 3 HP INQ + GOAK
0:20 wings/zealot

or

00:00 prepot
00:01 goak
0:10 wings/zealot/INQ

rocco1015 · 07/07/11, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Lord_Spaztic

Now maybe it's me, and maybe I'm just wrong. The value of expertise. Comparing [Ruthless Gladiator's Greatsword] vs [Skullstealer Greataxe]

Standard Base DPS : My current Character DPS on SS = 27,248 (SMF)
Equip 2x Ruthless : 27,338
Equip 2x SSGA (Haste->Crit) : 27,834

Now why would the SSGA parse Higher for a Human Fury Warrior?
It doesn't seem logical that the PvP Swords, Dispite having Resli, Would parse lower than the axes. IF Under Expertise Caps, wouldn't it be higher?
Is this because of the SEP isn't working?

The human expertise bonus for swords is only three expertise points, which translates to approximately 90 expertise rating (30.01 expertise rating per point). There is little to no chance that the SEP of those 90 points outweighs the 269 extra stat points on [Skullstealer Greataxe], which are wasted on Resil on the PVP sword.

*edit-- corrected the number of extra stat points on SSGA.